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Old July 14th, 2003, 09:38 PM   #106
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Nero forced the citizens of Rome (including those in Judea) to worship him as a God.
What Roman Emperor didn't?
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Old July 14th, 2003, 09:39 PM   #107
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The mark, is a figurative mark, not one seen by the eye.
Yet, if you didn't have this figurative mark that couldn't be seen by the eye you couldn't buy anytyhing.
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Old July 14th, 2003, 09:43 PM   #108
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So, because those who believe that the in an earlier date for the book of revelation are the few and weird can we call them crackpots like you did regarding those scientists who believe in creation?
Why do you continue to bring this up Strongbad? Relevancy?

And yes, I think Creationist are crackpots just like 99.99% of the scientific community.
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Old July 14th, 2003, 09:44 PM   #109
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Yet, if you didn't have this figurative mark that couldn't be seen by the eye you couldn't buy anytyhing.
Coins have marks don't they?
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Old July 14th, 2003, 09:44 PM   #110
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What Roman Emperor didn't?
Nero was the first to do this. And he was the first major persecutor of Christians.
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Old July 14th, 2003, 09:47 PM   #111
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Nero was the first to do this. And he was the first major persecutor of Christians.

...and Nero makes a crappy CD burning software
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Old July 14th, 2003, 09:48 PM   #112
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Nero was the first to do this. And he was the first major persecutor of Christians.
Well, Revelation must be considered a bust then since many other roman emperor's insisted on being worshipped as a god also.
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Old July 14th, 2003, 09:50 PM   #113
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Coins have marks don't they?
Jesus used coins. The apostles used coins. Paul used coins. Why would the christians have a problem with the use of coins?
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Old July 14th, 2003, 09:52 PM   #114
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Why do you continue to bring this up Strongbad? Relevancy?

And yes, I think Creationist are crackpots just like 99.99% of the scientific community.
Because your idea of how Revelation should be understood is not in the 99.99% side.

I just find it funny that you choose to side with whatever supports your belief and call the others crackpots.
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Old July 14th, 2003, 10:07 PM   #115
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Well, Revelation must be considered a bust then since many other roman emperor's insisted on being worshipped as a god also.
Ah...but you are wrong....see Constantine.
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Old July 14th, 2003, 10:08 PM   #116
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Because your idea of how Revelation should be understood is not in the 99.99% side.

I just find it funny that you choose to side with whatever supports your belief and call the others crackpots.
Did I call those who believe differently on this topic crackpots?

Now you resort to putting words in my mouth.

Pretty pathetic.
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Old July 14th, 2003, 10:09 PM   #117
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Jesus used coins. The apostles used coins. Paul used coins. Why would the christians have a problem with the use of coins?
Actually they did have a major problem with it.

Roman coins weren't allowed in Judea, but Christians in other parts of the Roman Empire had to.

But I didn't expect you to know that...
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Old July 15th, 2003, 01:57 AM   #119
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Ah...but you are wrong....see Constantine.
So the christians finally prevailed because of the secret of Revelation. Finally Constantine helped the christian church become acceptable and almost 300 years after Nero a Roman Emperor doesn't proclaim himself as god. VICTORY!

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Actually they did have a major problem with it.

Roman coins weren't allowed in Judea, but Christians in other parts of the Roman Empire had to.

But I didn't expect you to know that...
Actually there is a major problem with your information.

Roman coins were not allowed in Judea ... hmmm ...

Matthew 22:18-22
But Jesus realized their evil intentions and said, "Hypocrites! Why are you testing me? Show me the coin used for the tax." So they brought him a denarius. Jesus said to them, "Whose likeness is this and whose inscription?" They replied, "Caesar's." He said to them, "Then give to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." Now when they heard this they were stunned, and they left him and went away.



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Did I call those who believe differently on this topic crackpots?

Now you resort to putting words in my mouth.

Pretty pathetic.
No, you didn't call the people who believe the non-popular view crackpots regarding this subject. That's what makes it funny. Regarding evolution, if they do not believe the popular theory like you do, they are crackpots, but regarding this subject and topic, if they do not believe the popular theory they are insightful and wise. Why makes this theory accurate while the more popular and more widely accepted date and understanding of Revelation wrong?

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Old July 15th, 2003, 02:24 AM   #120
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The mark, is a figurative mark, not one seen by the eye.
I disagree.

I believe the mark will be a visible mark applied to either the hand or forehead of those who choose to accept it AND worship the beast as well. All of the Revelation verses which deal with the mark also mention the worshipping of the beast or it's image. No one will accidentally take the mark of the beast. People will be given a choice.

Krang - you should pick up a copy of Are We Living In The End Times? by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins, or their series Left Behind. Very good reading.

The funny thing about Revelation is that John was seeing a vision of the future. Let's say we are living in the end times right now (not too much of a leap in thinking) - imagine what the world of today would have looked like to a man nearly 2000 years ago...

It is fun for many to try and decipher prophecy, but in reality we won't know what it really means until it actually happens. Just like the fact that we are not meant to know the time or day of Christ's return...
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