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Old July 17th, 2003, 01:56 PM   #286
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I'll definitely listen....I try to be as openminded as possible.

But I have to admit that this thread has confused me even more spiritually. I believe in God less now, than when this thread was started.
Wow, that kind of hurts me...I guess I didn't do a very good job defending my faith.

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Old July 17th, 2003, 02:38 PM   #287
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Wow, that kind of hurts me...I guess I didn't do a very good job defending my faith.

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Don't fret. If your faith is the truth as you and others claim, I will find it some day.
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Old July 17th, 2003, 03:02 PM   #288
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come on krang....


be spiritual, learn from the purported words of the christ figure - better yet, study the teachings of the purported buddha - please don't give up your free mind to the christian vampires....
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Old July 17th, 2003, 03:06 PM   #289
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Re: come on krang....


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be spiritual, learn from the purported words of the christ figure - better yet, study the teachings of the purported buddha - please don't give up your free mind to the christian vampires....
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Old July 17th, 2003, 03:09 PM   #290
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Don't fret. If your faith is the truth as you and others claim, I will find it some day.
I just pray you don't find it too late. (Being 100% serious.)
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Old July 17th, 2003, 03:09 PM   #291
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be spiritual, learn from the purported words of the christ figure - better yet, study the teachings of the purported buddha - please don't give up your free mind to the christian vampires....
Buffy, where are you.

Christian Vampires? Must be one of those California churches. All we have around here in TN are Snake-Handlers.
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Old July 17th, 2003, 03:10 PM   #292
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I just pray you don't find it too late. (Being 100% serious.)
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Old July 19th, 2003, 01:38 PM   #293
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According to the Oxford Bible companion (published by the prestigious Oxford Press) the Gospels WERE written around 100 A.D.

And the writer of Revelations isn't the same writer of the Gospel John. Inconsistent writing styles.
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Old July 19th, 2003, 03:23 PM   #294
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According to the Oxford Bible companion (published by the prestigious Oxford Press) the Gospels WERE written around 100 A.D.

And the writer of Revelations isn't the same writer of the Gospel John. Inconsistent writing styles.
That's because it was written by Paul...

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Old July 19th, 2003, 03:35 PM   #295
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Revelation was written by the Apostle John while in exile on the island of Patmos around 90 AD. It's even possbile that it was written a little earlier than that time.

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Old July 19th, 2003, 03:53 PM   #296
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Revelation was written by the Apostle John while in exile on the island of Patmos around 90 AD. It's even possbile that it was written a little earlier than that time.

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My bad...could have sworn it was Paul.

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According to the Oxford Bible companion (published by the prestigious Oxford Press) the Gospels WERE written around 100 A.D.

And the writer of Revelations isn't the same writer of the Gospel John. Inconsistent writing styles.
And according to the majortity of theologians since then early church what I stated about the timeline as when the gospels were written is correct and the author of Revelation was the same John of the Gospel.
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Old July 23rd, 2003, 12:07 PM   #298
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Re: The Christian Challenge:


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Ok, it has been stated by several Christians on this board, that God's existence is provable. Well I want to hear the proof.

The proof must be held to the standards of science, not anecdotal evidence or evidence that isn't falsifiable. I want to be able to see the evidence, and be able to come to the same conclusion.
wow, i saw this thread a few days ago and it was only like one page why is something like this always the thread with the most reply's? there must be some significance there right? everyone wants to prove a point, and say what they beleive. we even had a big thread on something a while back right?

well here is my thoughts. these are not intended to be insulting, but straight up responses, which i think is appreciated. right?

first of i beleive in God and Jesus. and i'm a follower of Christ. by now, opinions and thoughts about the rest of my post have already been made...i beleive becuase of faith, as other's have said, but also becuase what i have seen through other people's faith.

if you see someone living out faith and trusting God, it is a small glimpse of God. that is pretty visible proof.

a church is not a building, it is the people. a church is the place they meet. God lives inside them.

the goal is relationship with God. talking with prayer and listening. through that and beleif in HIM, the reality of God is your reality.

i play in a Christian band. i sing songs about what God has done and my search to know him better. i do that becuase i have a reason to beleive and proof by what i've seen as i've trusted him, and i do it to pass on what God has done, in order to encourage others and inspire them. this is not a "look at me" thing. it's the "proof" and reality of God in my life. utamatly a relationship with God and Jesus is Personal one. i can't convince anyone to beleive, but i can tell you what i beleive and let God do the rest. that's what faith is all about.



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Old July 23rd, 2003, 04:51 PM   #299
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if you see someone living out faith and trusting God, it is a small glimpse of God. that is pretty visible proof.

Not prove at all...only belief.
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Old July 24th, 2003, 08:08 AM   #300
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Christ's Brother's Ossuary a fake


Not that this dissproves anything, but refutes on of the "evidences" given earlier:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science....ap/index.html
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