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Originally posted by EndZone Someone earlier in this thread said that their was a contradiction because the Bible says that the Romans Killed Jesus but that other historical documents say that the Jews did...or the other way around.
I read the Gospel of John last night and the Jews actually turned Jesus over to the Romans to be killed since they had not authority to do so. So essentially both are right. The Jews turned Jesus over to be killed but the Romans acutally killed him.
Ah you are mixing up what I said.
Roman historians have attributed the death to the Romans, not to the Jews at all.
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Originally posted by EndZone I didn't put words in you mouth but if you do not believe that He is the Son of God then you must think he is a lier because he time and time again told people that he was the Son of God.
No I think the Gospels (matthew, mark, etc.) didn't know Jesus at all (which is based in fact) and they attributed that to him.
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Originally posted by Krangthebrain No I think the Gospels (matthew, mark, etc.) didn't know Jesus at all (which is based in fact) and they attributed that to him.
Wow, where is this proof, based in fact, that 4 different guys didn't know him at all?
Originally posted by Krangthebrain No but from what you just wrote, you do. (just kidding).
Can you prove Jesus ever said he was the Son of God?
Nope. We know for a fact that Biblical writers attribute that to him (even though he had died long ago).
So you believe the Bible about the good things that Jesus did and how he lived his life ( you did say he was the way we should act) but you don't believe the Bible when it quotes him? So which is it the Bible is correct or incorrect...or you take what YOU want from it?
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Originally posted by Krangthebrain No I think the Gospels (matthew, mark, etc.) didn't know Jesus at all (which is based in fact) and they attributed that to him.
??? How did you think up this???
Matthew was one of his 12 apostles while Mark wrote what Peter, another one of the 12 apostles told him to write. John was also one of the 12 aportles. Luke, was a doctor who researched it and decided to write it down for accuracy.
Originally posted by Krangthebrain So you are going to tell me what I HAVE TO BELIEVE?
Ridiculous. And this is the attitude that made me give up Christianity.
I feel sorry for you about the Christians you must have hung out with...because the ones I am friends with don't do anything of the sort.
And he wasn't telling you WHAT to believe, he's just saying if you believe that part of the Bible was true in that he lived, but the rest isn't true because you don't think it is, then it's a contradiction.
Originally posted by Krangthebrain No I think the Gospels (matthew, mark, etc.) didn't know Jesus at all (which is based in fact) and they attributed that to him.
No offense Krang, but your claim since I have been reading these threads is that the christians pick and choose what to take literally and figuratively. You are doing the exact same thing. You like the part about Jesus' wisdom so you believe it. You don't like the part about Jesus teaching us we are sinners and need ofrgiving so you don't believe it.
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Originally posted by Strong Bad ??? How did you think up this???
Matthew was one of his 12 apostles while Mark wrote what Peter, another one of the 12 apostles told him to write. John was also one of the 12 aportles. Luke, was a doctor who researched it and decided to write it down for accuracy.
Every book of the Gospels was written many years after Jesus' death.
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Originally posted by Strong Bad No offense Krang, but your claim since I have been reading these threads is that the christians pick and choose what to take literally and figuratively. You are doing the exact same thing.
How?
I believe very little of the Bible, and I take everything from it with a grain of salt. I take basically the entire Bible figuratively.
I do believe that Jesus was a special person that did many great works, but I seriously doubt the authenticity of all the stories.
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Originally posted by Krangthebrain Every book of the Gospels was written many years after Jesus' death.
As I said, John, Matthew and Peter, 3 of the 4 gospel telling people were part of the closest people to Jesus for his time of public ministry. They were all eyewitnesses to the things they wrote about.
So, if I write about my early life in the 1970s it will not be accurate?
I believe very little of the Bible, and I take everything from it with a grain of salt. I take basically the entire Bible figuratively.
I do believe that Jesus was a special person that did many great works, but I seriously doubt the authenticity of all the stories.
Tell me what exactly you do believe about Jesus. I am interested. Because Jesus claimed to be able to forgive sin and claimed to be God and claimed to be the fulfillment of Old Testament scripture.
If all Jesus was was a good man that sure doesn't like a good man to me.
Originally posted by SirStefan32 Are you sure about that? What do you mean by "many"?
About 100 years.
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