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ethics (used with a sing. verb) The study of the general nature of morals and of the specific moral choices to be made by a person; moral philosophy.
Morality is subjective because different people have different sets and standards of morality. The problem with the extreme right and left wings is they both insist on forcing their own standard of ethics (morals) on you.
But you are a person have your own distinct moral code based on many factors including genetics, socio-economic background, education level, and environment.
The easiest place to find how morality is subjective is to look at different religions.
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Originally posted by Strong Bad Like Shawn, you may not be an ass but the only other explanation is you are suffering from PMS.
I know you didn't want to drag me into the middle of this - what's the point. I thought we let the other thread become outmoded. I let it go so why didn't you? How quickly we've let ourselves become the Pariah - hmmm, that name may suit you well.
Perhaps a bit of self-analysis should be of order. Tell me what you think about your mother. Better yet, how long have you been practicing and isn't it time that you quit and start doing it for real?
Geez.
Anyhow, I guess we do agree on one thing - that morality is objective - at least certain aspects of it are. But that debate/argument is old and worn and I've been through it a couple of times quite extensively.
Furthermore, I thought your mother...err...wife said that you should stay off the board? Does she know what you are doing or did she give you permission to come out and play? Anyway, you still haven't told me about your mother...
Shawn
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Originally posted by Strong Bad So christians don't have to act a certain way?
Yes, Christian should act a certain way, but for someone like you to come in here, be a jerk, and then try to tell us how we should be acting is complete arrogance.
Don't preach what you don't practice...don't question what you yourself don't do.
Originally posted by Chandler Mike Yes, Christian should act a certain way, but for someone like you to come in here, be a jerk, and then try to tell us how we should be acting is complete arrogance.
One might say...pretentious? Perish the thought...yawn.
Nighty nighty Strong Bad - I'll miss you most of all. Kisses and Hugs.
Shawn
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"Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics... Even if
you win, you are still retarded..."
"I can't trust a woman who would marry me." ~ AzCards21
"I don't care what you believe, keep your religion out of my peanut butter!" ~ Assface
On the subject of FDR, I thought that welfare was only a temporary solution to curve the unemployed people during the depression...so why is my drugged up cousin, who just sits on her ass popping out kids and doing drugs, still getting a $500.00 check every month that comes out of my taxes
Originally posted by Chandler Mike Yes, Christian should act a certain way, but for someone like you to come in here, be a jerk, and then try to tell us how we should be acting is complete arrogance.
Don't preach what you don't practice...don't question what you yourself don't do.
Mike
Such as not judging others like you have done with me even though the christian rules tell you not to. And you called me a hypocrit.
Originally posted by Chris_Sanders ethics (used with a sing. verb) The study of the general nature of morals and of the specific moral choices to be made by a person; moral philosophy.
Morality is subjective because different people have different sets and standards of morality. The problem with the extreme right and left wings is they both insist on forcing their own standard of ethics (morals) on you.
But you are a person have your own distinct moral code based on many factors including genetics, socio-economic background, education level, and environment.
The easiest place to find how morality is subjective is to look at different religions.
For a society to function properly, morality cannot be subjective. Morality changes but only when the society agrees. If morality was subjective there is no possible way to convict anyone of a any crime because people could simply claim that their actions are founded in their genetic, socio-economic, educational and enviroment background and level. Morality is agree upon by the group, not the individual.
Originally posted by Strong Bad Such as not judging others like you have done with me even though the christian rules tell you not to. And you called me a hypocrit.
No, I called you a hypocrite
I didn't judge you, I judged your comments. I don't know anything about you, and would never judge you anyways.
But your comments I CAN judge, and they were rude and uncalled for.
Originally posted by Chandler Mike Yes, Christian should act a certain way, but for someone like you to come in here, be a jerk, and then try to tell us how we should be acting is complete arrogance.
Don't preach what you don't practice...don't question what you yourself don't do.
Mike
And now you have lied about calling my judging my comments. All you are doing is playing a word game as you have done what the christian rules tell you shouldn't.
Originally posted by Strong Bad For a society to function properly, morality cannot be subjective. Morality changes but only when the society agrees. If morality was subjective there is no possible way to convict anyone of a any crime because people could simply claim that their actions are founded in their genetic, socio-economic, educational and enviroment background and level. Morality is agree upon by the group, not the individual.
Correct to a point - I would to just a step further with it. I would suggest that morality - if it be Objective - cannot change, even when society as a whole agrees upon it. The reason being that those things that are Objective always hold true and are meant for us to discover and refine our understanding of it. Therefore, our understanding and comprehension of it might change - but Objective Morality doesn't. So if society truely changes it's framework concerning a specific Moral standard, then it's societies understanding of the constant that has changed - and not the moral constant changing and coming into line with societies shaping of its understanding regarding that moral standard.
Things that are Subjective are ever changing based upon mood, taste, style, etc.
Shawn
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you win, you are still retarded..."
"I can't trust a woman who would marry me." ~ AzCards21
"I don't care what you believe, keep your religion out of my peanut butter!" ~ Assface
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Hey, since so many of you have Reagan in your top 5 presidents of all time, can someone remind of something he did other than illegally sell weapons to Iran to fund a coup against the Nicaraguan government and then lie repeatedly about it?
Originally posted by schutd Hey, since so many of you have Reagan in your top 5 presidents of all time, can someone remind of something he did other than illegally sell weapons to Iran to fund a coup against the Nicaraguan government and then lie repeatedly about it?
Thanks.
Now you've done it, schutd........peed on Mt. St. Reagan
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