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I guess you would be shocked to know that most officers are very much pro-gun. In fact most of my co-workers(not me) are avid collectors of them!
They have more guns than I would really care to imagine. Most feel the same way I do that a ban on guns wouldnt lower crime.
Like I said before in an earlier post. A criminal whose willing to risk 20+ years in prison isnt going to change the way he is because there is stiffer penalties for having a gun. There are already gun enhancement penalties when guns are used in a crime.
It doesn't surprise me police officers are pro gun (Jeez it is how you protect yourself)...or even collect them. What surprises me is the idea that police officers like the idea of more guns out there. I mean, would that create a rise in the number of domestic altercations that end in shootings?
Very interesting.
Slightly OT Shane but do you wear a vest all the time?
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Originally posted by AZCB34 It doesn't surprise me police officers are pro gun (Jeez it is how you protect yourself)...or even collect them. What surprises me is the idea that police officers like the idea of more guns out there. I mean, would that create a rise in the number of domestic altercations that end in shootings?
Very interesting.
Slightly OT Shane but do you wear a vest all the time?
Well IMO domestic altercation that end in death are going to end in death regardless. If someone is so emotionally detached that they want to kill someone they are going to find another way to do it whether it be a knife, choking, etc..... Especially domestic disputes becasue many times they are crimes of passion and emotions get the best of people.
But you are right it does probably make the response of an officer to these situations more dangerous when there is a gun involved.
People who dont want to be taken into custody will be more willing to use them on an officer. But to be honest most officers dont worry about it to much IMO. We are trained and trained very well to do the job that we do. We have confidence in our abilities to make the right decision. We also know that in this job that is an inherant risk we accept when choosing this type of employment.
That may sound cocky but its not. I have been shot at twice and had knives pulled on me several times. I believe my training and now after 6 1/2 years of experience has pulled me through and I have faith in my abilities and am at peace with god that he will look after me!
As far as the vest? HECK YEA! I wear it religously. You will never ever catch me in uniform without my vest on. To me any officer that doesnt wear them is just asking for trouble! I have an 8 year old son I want to come home to everyday. If wearing a vest makes it more possible then thats what I must do ALWAYS!
Originally posted by Shane H Well IMO domestic altercation that end in death are going to end in death regardless. If someone is so emotionally detached that they want to kill someone they are going to find another way to do it whether it be a knife, choking, etc..... Especially domestic disputes becasue many times they are crimes of passion and emotions get the best of people.
But you are right it does probably make the response of an officer to these situations more dangerous when there is a gun involved.
People who dont want to be taken into custody will be more willing to use them on an officer. But to be honest most officers dont worry about it to much IMO. We are trained and trained very well to do the job that we do. We have confidence in our abilities to make the right decision. We also know that in this job that is an inherant risk we accept when choosing this type of employment.
That may sound cocky but its not. I have been shot at twice and had knives pulled on me several times. I believe my training and now after 6 1/2 years of experience has pulled me through and I have faith in my abilities and am at peace with god that he will look after me!
As far as the vest? HECK YEA! I wear it religously. You will never ever catch me in uniform without my vest on. To me any officer that doesnt wear them is just asking for trouble! I have an 8 year old son I want to come home to everyday. If wearing a vest makes it more possible then thats what I must do ALWAYS!
One thing you've got to remember is that murder is generally a crime of passion. Most murders are committed by people who know each other, and many of the murderers wouldn't commit murder with out a gun.
Murders with knives and other things that require more effort, require a killer that is willing to hurt someone up close and personal.
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Originally posted by Cardinals.Ken If memory serves...
Studies have shown that there has been a 30% decrease in vioent crime the past 25 years. There has been a 70% increase in news reporting of violent crime in the same time period.
Fear generates viewers, viewers mean ratings, ratings mean higher advertising costs, which means more money for media outlets...
After some research, the actual numbers are a 20% drop in gun-related crime, and a 600% rise in news reports of gun-related crime the past 20 years.
My God...that just totally blows me away...
(no pun instended)
Originally posted by Cardinals.Ken After some research, the actual numbers are a 20% drop in gun-related crime, and a 600% rise in news reports of gun-related crime the past 20 years.
My God...that just totally blows me away...
(no pun instended)
That's probably a figure that Altheide came up with.
Where did you find that? It sounds exactly like what he said....
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Originally posted by Cardinals.Ken "The Culture of Fear" by Barry Glassner, Professor of Sociology at USC.
Very cool.
I believe those figures more now that I've seen two academics come up with the same figures.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Originally posted by AZCB34 The way it is worded, the amendment is a free license to own any weapon. Of that there isn't really an argument. However, as I pointed out as well, the true intent of the amendment is vastly outdated and in fact barely applicable any longer.
That is the crux of the issue...and it isn't any different than the really intent of the free speech amendment being outdated from it's true intent. The way it is worded it leaves everything open but the actual intent of it isn't applicable any longer.
Outdated perhaps...but the wording seems clear. A law-abiding American does have the right to own a gun.
A gun-less country is quite feasible in a socially stable population ie an government and military accountable to its people. However for that to occur the Second Admendment would have to be repealed, An action some the "gun-control" activists have advocated. Given the huge national support neccessary for such an action it seems unrealistic.
But I find the support for such an action absolutely frightening.
Regardless of one's opinion concerning guns, the idea of repealing one of the Bill of Rights seems horrible.
All ten of the Bill of Rights feel sacred as a whole. If one could fall
how safe are the others?
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Originally posted by az-red Outdated perhaps...but the wording seems clear. A law-abiding American does have the right to own a gun.
A gun-less country is quite feasible in a socially stable population ie an government and military accountable to its people. However for that to occur the Second Admendment would have to be repealed, An action some the "gun-control" activists have advocated. Given the huge national support neccessary for such an action it seems unrealistic.
But I find the support for such an action absolutely frightening.
Regardless of one's opinion concerning guns, the idea of repealing one of the Bill of Rights seems horrible.
All ten of the Bill of Rights feel sacred as a whole. If one could fall
how safe are the others?
All ten of the Bill of Rights feel sacred as a whole. If one could fall
how safe are the others?
Not to nitpick but this is an example of creating a false dilemma.
None of us know what would happen if it was repealed. Personally I wish everyone would just choose not to own guns, but thats just how I feel.
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I am in favor of gun control, but not gun removal.
Background checks and classes for anyone wishing to own a gun.
An extended waiting period when purchasing a gun (two weeks)
No purchases allowed at gun shows.
No automatic weapons.
I agree that our forefathers did not understand the way that technology would progress...but that doesn't take away our fundamental right to own weapons.
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