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Old July 9th, 2003, 01:06 PM   #76
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I don't know about him, but I sure do. I wonder how many people would break into somebody else's house if they knew that everybody has a machine gun.
That would work - you see an intruder - spray him with bullets, hitting half you family in the process.......



Of course, the intruder could just turn out to be the teenage son sneaking home after an illicit night with the boys.
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Old July 9th, 2003, 01:09 PM   #77
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So you advocate a machine gun in every house? We do not live in a police state - we are relatively safe. Are you going to train everyone? How big of a problem are home invasions? And how many would be solved by having guns in every house? How many more accidental deaths would that cause?

You actually want to FORCE someone to have a gun? Made in America, of course, by a big business. Don't forget to require each household to buy ammo.
I think that Strongbad needs to take a class with Dr. Altheide (though he does seem to be an anti-intellectual)

http://www.asu.edu/copp/justice/facu...d_altheide.htm

He has written multiple academic works on the misrepresentation of crime by the media. Home invasion robberies are a rarity.
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Old July 9th, 2003, 01:10 PM   #78
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Here is one of Altheide's books

http://www.degruyter.de/rs/bookSingl...02306593-1&l=E
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Old July 9th, 2003, 01:11 PM   #79
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That would work - you see an intruder - spray him with bullets, hitting half you family in the process.......



Of course, the intruder could just turn out to be the teenage son sneaking home after an illicit night with the boys.
Ah, but that is the least likely outcome. You are more likely to wake up with an intruder standing over your bed with your weapon pointed at your head.
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Old July 9th, 2003, 01:13 PM   #80
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Here is one of Altheide's books

http://www.degruyter.de/rs/bookSingl...02306593-1&l=E
Looks interesting. Also looks like Karl Rove has read the book - because that is how he is running the country - make the US frightened of al-Queada, Iraq, etc, so they stay with Dubya.
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Old July 9th, 2003, 01:14 PM   #81
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Ah, but that is the least likely outcome. You are more likely to wake up with an intruder standing over your bed with your weapon pointed at your head.
Very true - but the point was - what good is a machine gun gonna do in a home invasion. It is not like you can keep it under your pillow.
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Old July 9th, 2003, 01:17 PM   #82
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Looks interesting. Also looks like Karl Rove has read the book - because that is how he is running the country - make the US frightened of al-Queada, Iraq, etc, so they stay with Dubya.
Altheide is an amazing academic, and a really funny guy as well.

He really shows how the media exaggerates the truth, especially concerning violent crimes. One of the things he mentioned, was that men are the least afraid, of any group, of violent crime. It's ironic, because men are more often than not, the victims of violent crime. The elderly are the most afraid, and they are the least likely victims.
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Altheide is an amazing academic, and a really funny guy as well.

He really shows how the media exaggerates the truth, especially concerning violent crimes. One of the things he mentioned, was that men are the least afraid, of any group, of violent crime. It's ironic, because men are more often than not, the victims of violent crime. The elderly are the most afraid, and they are the least likely victims.
Men are more bullheaded (dumb?) and the elderly are more aware of their frailties and abilities.
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Men are more bullheaded (dumb?) and the elderly are more aware of their frailties and abilities.
Yeah, that's part of it, but also old people watch the news more than any other group.
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Old July 9th, 2003, 01:29 PM   #85
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Altheide is an amazing academic, and a really funny guy as well.

He really shows how the media exaggerates the truth, especially concerning violent crimes. One of the things he mentioned, was that men are the least afraid, of any group, of violent crime. It's ironic, because men are more often than not, the victims of violent crime. The elderly are the most afraid, and they are the least likely victims.
If memory serves...

Studies have shown that there has been a 30% decrease in vioent crime the past 25 years. There has been a 70% increase in news reporting of violent crime in the same time period.

Fear generates viewers, viewers mean ratings, ratings mean higher advertising costs, which means more money for media outlets...
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If memory serves...

Studies have shown that there has been a 30% decrease in vioent crime the past 25 years. There has been a 70% increase in news reporting of violent crime in the same time period.

Fear generates viewers, viewers mean ratings, ratings mean higher advertising costs, which means more money for media outlets...
EXACTLY!

Altheide showed that in one of his lectures.

The reason why the news reports it more (and exponentially more would be more accurate)?

Ratings. People love to hear about crime.
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Fear generates viewers, viewers mean ratings, ratings mean higher advertising costs, which means more money for media outlets...
More money means a greater economy, which means more per capita household income, which leads to more home invasions thus the need for machine guns in every home. The circle is complete.

New machine guns for all my friends!!
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More money means a greater economy, which means more per capita household income, which leads to more home invasions thus the need for machine guns in every home. The circle is complete.

New machine guns for all my friends!!
Actually crime increases during periods when the economy is bad....so actually home invasions would decrease.
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I think that Strongbad needs to take a class with Dr. Altheide (though he does seem to be an anti-intellectual)

http://www.asu.edu/copp/justice/facu...d_altheide.htm

He has written multiple academic works on the misrepresentation of crime by the media. Home invasion robberies are a rarity.
Actually at least here in Vegas Home Invasion Robberies are on the rise and there have been different groups responsible for many of them.

They are an extremely violent crime in which the home owners are often beaten badly, terrorized, even killed and raped during the whole ordeal. Homeowners are really very easy targets.

If they are on the rise here I would be willing to bet they are around the country as well. It is a brutal crime and the homeowner should have the right to protect themselves!
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Actually at least here in Vegas Home Invasion Robberies are on the rise and there have been different groups responsible for many of them.

They are an extremely violent crime in which the home owners are often beaten badly, terrorized, even killed and raped during the whole ordeal. Homeowners are really very easy targets.

If they are on the rise here I would be willing to bet they are around the country as well. It is a brutal crime and the homeowner should have the right to protect themselves!
But even though they are on the rise, are they really that common?

Not really.
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