mattyboy

those are great faces

WaywardFan

First of all, I'll say that I have no problem whatsoever with two guys going at it (or a guy and a girl or a girl and a girl) at home. I might attract ire from other conservatives for saying this.

There is a slippery slope here, and that is what I have a problem with this decision. They could've simply said that sodomy is illegal. However, they framed it around a 'right to privacy' (which actually isn't in the Constitution).

I'm afraid this sets a bad precedent that this right to privacy supercedes law. Seriously, how long will it be before we hear a defense attorney say this in court:

'Your honor I ask that all charges against my client be dropped. Who he rapes in the privacy of his bedroom is not our business.'

or

'Sure my client molests children, but it was behind closed doors. Therefore, he should be allowed to continue to do this as we can't violate his right to privacy.'

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Krangthebrain

That's totally bs.

I find it quite assinine that you compare two consenting adults having sex with an adult molesting children.



Admit it, you don't like gay people and you have trouble accepting others.

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Dback Jon

You are going off the deep end, like Scalia, and making illogical leaps. The Court specifically said TWO CONSENTING ADULTS. This has nothing to do with rape, molestation or any other type of forceable sexual activity. You know that, but are using the same scare tactics that the right wing is howling about.

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WaywardFan

Okay then, find a flaw in the logic.


Despite your obvious (and quite frankly infantile) attempts to mischaracterize me, it just won't work. You absolutely ignore the content of my post and decide to slander me. Show me one single indication in which I've expressed any sort of hostility toward homosexuals. Most assuredly I know more of them and are friends with more of them than you.

Careful where you tread in regards to how you try to paint me.

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WaywardFan

Not at all. Give me a little credit for trying to measuredly discuss this topic (at your request, by the way).

So, you're saying that as long as one of the engaged parties complains then it is against the law? What if a person raped won't come forward? Is it okay then?

Jon, I'm not using scare tactics. I'm seriously concerned about this. Can you REALLY say that in a month or two there won't be a defense attorney trying this?

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Chandler Mike

In the first line of his freaking post he said he had no problem with gay people...so why do you have to attack him like that?

He was pointing out how this decision could possibly affect others down the road...instead of resorting to immature comments like the one above, how about you reply with a well-reasoned argument?

Mike

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Krangthebrain

I think it is absolute bs to connect consensual sex between adults to the molestation of children.

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Dback Jon

Forced sex (or anything forced) is in no way addressed or covered by this decision.

And it is clearly established in law that a victim need not complain or file charges for an arrest to be made - like Pittman's wife not wanting to press charges, but the DA has the authority to decide to prosecute (not the victim).

You may be right, so defense attorney may try to use this, but it will be thrown out quickly. Defense attorneys have tried many laughable arguments, but that is a lame reason as to why we should keep snooping in someone's bedroom.

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Dback Jon

And there is no logic trying to connect actions between two consenting adults and actions between an adult and a child.

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Krangthebrain

That's what I was trying to say in the post I got blasted in.

But I did step over the line, and Waywardfan, I let my emotions get the better of me. For that I apologize.

But I can't stand people making that logical leap, comparing consensual sex among adults with the molestation of children.

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WaywardFan

I know it’s not addressed. It is that ambiguity that concerns me.
They said that privacy supercedes law.

And you don’t think that this opinion will change that?
I mean, you said what goes on between two consenting adults in private is beyond the reach of the law. So, wouldn’t that mean that the DA no longer has the right to prosecute on her (or anyone’s) behalf?

I can also see defense attorneys trying this as well. After all, the victim’s not going to press charges.

I just think it could set a terrible precedent. As usual, it is hard to ascertain unintended consequences. I really hope you’re right though.

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Chandler Mike

Fine, but I think it's absolute BS that you can't act like an adult when you say that...

Mike

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Krangthebrain

Well, I apologized, so what else do you want me to do?

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schutd

There probably already has been, Wayward. Defense attourneys can be slimy folk. I dont think for one secon that we will ever look back on this decision and say its responsible for some future perceived fall of civilzation.

Youre reading too much into it.