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Originally posted by KingofCards Thank You. Like it is common sense that no Man can build a boat big enough to fit two of every animal on earth onto it and have them live for months together? Can you say literary device?
Exactly.
Common Sense would say that it is impossible. As is creating woman from a man's rib, A person getting swallowed by a whale (and not dying), Frogs raining from the skies, the resurrection of the dead, a great flood (though there is no evidence for that), and the list could go on and on and on.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Common Sense would say that it is impossible. As is creating woman from a man's rib, A person getting swallowed by a whale (and not dying), Frogs raining from the skies, the resurrection of the dead, a great flood (though there is no evidence for that), and the list could go on and on and on.
But that is beside the point.
I'm getting a little off topic, and I apologize for it.
So.....let's get back to discussing sodomy!
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Originally posted by Chandler Mike The Bible is evidence enough for me.
But I do know a guy who was a youth pastor of ours, and they had this friend who was demon possessed...he started growling at them, etc...
I believe it...maybe we don't hear of it, but that doesn't mean much to me.
Mike
To be fully honest, I don't know what to believe about demonic possesion. I'm debating, more for the sake of debate than anything else.
I'm not a believer in all of the Bible (Noah's Ark, genesis, etc.), but I do believe the message of Christ (love, charity, etc.).
I am a believer in the unknown. This is kind of personal, but my girlfriend sees ghosts. Kind of like in the movies the Sixth Sense or Stir of Echos. Her cousin also sees spirits, and there has been some extremely remarkable instances that have made me totally believe them without a doubt.
My girlfriends cousin walked into my old apartment one day, and he gave a very strange look down the hallway. My girlfriend and I asked him what he saw and he told us he saw an Indian (Native American variety) peek out of my exroommate's room.
To make a long story short, my exroommate was a drug addict (which is why he is an exroommate now). He was overdosing on a mixture of ketamines, LSD, and something else (what an idiot). I was trying to help him, and I noticed that he had unplugged his computer monitor for some odd reason. I asked him why he had done that, and he told me that an Indian had been sitting in front of his computer (the part about him unplugging still didn't make much sense). Very strange. He never heard what my girlfriend's cousin had said, so for him to say that was kind of spooky.
I won't say that I don't believe that demonic possesion happens, the truth is, it is very possible. I've seen way too many strange things to say it's not possible.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Originally posted by Krangthebrain Exactly. His argument is weak and has no merit.
What is weak and has no merit??? Science has not proven anything so therefore the logical conclusion is that homosexuality is not biological. Your reasoning is not very sound.
Originally posted by Krangthebrain Just like the Evolution debate Strongbad, there is no scientific evidence that it is NOT biological.
If it was proven to not be biological, I could care less. I don't condemn other human beings, I'm above that, and better than that.
The burden of proof is on the theory that claims it to be biological (it being either evolution or homosexuality). Your reasoning that science has not proven either to not be biuological is taken from the assumption that it is already believed to be biological. A very unscientific and biased point of view for both theories.
Originally posted by Krangthebrain Oh please Strongbad....you must be the most stubborn person on this board.
NAMBLA WILL NEVER HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON.
Apples and Oranges.
I do not know the future and I find NAMBLA disgusting, but anybody else find if funny that these were the same things people were saying about abortion and homosexuality 50+ years ago?
Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Huh? That is quite an assumption Strongbad (you know as in ass-u-me..... makes an ass out of you and me) There are quite a few (thousands actually) animals that committ acts of homosexuality. Baby hyenas run around sodomize each other all day....but I forgot, It's not natural.
So now you reveal the real you when asked to explain your scientifically unfounded biased beliefs. You shoose to be insulting. I will let this one go, but if it continues I will have to say thx for the conversation and end it there. It has been very civil up till now, let's all show some maturity and keep it civil.
There is a large number of documented proof that animals will run around and sodomize just about anything that allows them to ... they sodomize anything, male, female other species. My dog likes to hump people's legs ... does that make him human?
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There is a species of toads that when overpopulation occurs, many of them turn to into homosexuals. SO from an evolutionary standpoint homosexuality is good to control overpopulation
Why does it only happen when it is over-populated? Does the homosexual gene only occur when it is over-populated? How does the homosexual gene know when it is over-populated?
You just proved that those frogs choose homosexuality. It's called getting your rocks off anyway you can ... common sense.
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No you are the one speculating that it is not natural. Obviously homosexuality has existed for at least 3 thousand years, and new scientific evidence points to it being biological. You choose to ignore that. Your position has NO evidence, except for belief.
nEw scientific evidence SUGGESTS, INSINUATES, ASSUMES homosexuality is biological ... science does not CONCLUDE, PROVES homosexuality is biological.
Please don't use the scientific rhetoric by trying to disguise it's vague non-conlcusive results as hardened facts.
Originally posted by Strong Bad Exactly! To steal your phrase ... He shoots! He scores!. The burden of proof is on those who believe homosexuality to be biological.
And to add to that - it must be in conformance with the Laws of Logic. If it breaks any of them it is considered a bad model and another explanation must be found. Science, just as all other branches of academia, must hold to Logic and Reason otherwise they collapse. Even science has its roots based in Philosophy.
Shawn
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Originally posted by FischerKing And to add to that - it must be in conformance with the Laws of Logic. If it breaks any of them it is considered a bad model and another explanation must be found. Science, just as all other branches of academia, must hold to Logic and Reason otherwise they collapse. Even science has its roots based in Philosophy.
Shawn
Good point. I have also found that there is a great deal of documentation from people claiming to be former homosexuals. Some still claim it to be biological while others claim it was their chosen behavior.
Just pointing out this documentation because earlier Krang used:
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Strongbad, do you actually believe someone would choose to be homosexual? As a hetero, you've heard all the jokes about homosexuals, and seen the torment that hetero males put homosexuals through. Do you want to believe that anyone would choose that?
Now my answer that question is there are some who claim they did choose that lifestyle.
Originally posted by Strong Bad So now you reveal the real you when asked to explain your scientifically unfounded biased beliefs. You shoose to be insulting. I will let this one go, but if it continues I will have to say thx for the conversation and end it there. It has been very civil up till now, let's all show some maturity and keep it civil.
There is a large number of documented proof that animals will run around and sodomize just about anything that allows them to ... they sodomize anything, male, female other species. My dog likes to hump people's legs ... does that make him human?
Why does it only happen when it is over-populated? Does the homosexual gene only occur when it is over-populated? How does the homosexual gene know when it is over-populated?
You just proved that those frogs choose homosexuality. It's called getting your rocks off anyway you can ... common sense.
nEw scientific evidence SUGGESTS, INSINUATES, ASSUMES homosexuality is biological ... science does not CONCLUDE, PROVES homosexuality is biological.
Please don't use the scientific rhetoric by trying to disguise it's vague non-conlcusive results as hardened facts.
I'm done responding.
You twist everything the way you want. That's ok, but it really is annoying.
I will post FACTS from ACADEMIC sources later on. And I will let you debate against that with your semantics.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Originally posted by Strong Bad Good point. I have also found that there is a great deal of documentation from people claiming to be former homosexuals. Some still claim it to be biological while others claim it was their chosen behavior.
Just pointing out this documentation because earlier Krang used:
Now my answer that question is there are some who claim they did choose that lifestyle.
So then it begs the question, does it not, that if some claim to have choosen then were does it leave the biological argument?
Shawn
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"Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics... Even if
you win, you are still retarded..."
"I can't trust a woman who would marry me." ~ AzCards21
"I don't care what you believe, keep your religion out of my peanut butter!" ~ Assface
Originally posted by FischerKing And to add to that - it must be in conformance with the Laws of Logic. If it breaks any of them it is considered a bad model and another explanation must be found. Science, just as all other branches of academia, must hold to Logic and Reason otherwise they collapse. Even science has its roots based in Philosophy.
Shawn
So why would anyone logical choose to be gay, Shawn?
Ever guy here has sat in a lockerroom and heard the gay jokes and all that. Why would anyone choose to be an outcast, choose to be murdered, or any of the extremely terrible outcomes that many homosexuals have suffered through.
That's not logical, rational, or intelligent.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
