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July 4th, 2003, 06:10 AM
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Krycek, Alex Krycek
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Quote:
Originally posted by Audrey19
If it is biological and related to the size of an area in the brain... how do you explain bi-sexuals?
And why do many homosexual men suddenly develop a particular voice pattern when they come out of the closet?
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Heh! Interesting questions indeed.
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July 4th, 2003, 07:01 AM
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#212
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Krang,
you have kept asking the people (of which not all are christians) what their response would be if homosexuality is ever proven to be biological. What will your response be if science proves homosexuality is not biological?
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July 4th, 2003, 08:53 AM
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#213
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: strongbad
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Originally posted by mattyboy
as is heterosexuality so where does that leave any of us?
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Exactly. His argument is weak and has no merit.
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July 4th, 2003, 08:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by FischerKing
Book, chapter and verse if you don't mind - I don't recall coming across that and it would be helpful.
Thanks,
Shawn
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Not exactly sure, it deals with the four pillars of the Earth, which implies flat-ness.
As another thing that has been bothering me lately about the Bible. When Jesus meets the man possesed by the demon who calls himself Legion...Jesus believed he was possessed. Conventional wisdom now would suggest schizophrenia. If Jesus really was all knowing, he would have told him it was a mental disorder.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
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July 4th, 2003, 08:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Strong Bad
Krang,
you have kept asking the people (of which not all are christians) what their response would be if homosexuality is ever proven to be biological. What will your response be if science proves homosexuality is not biological?
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Just like the Evolution debate Strongbad, there is no scientific evidence that it is NOT biological.
If it was proven to not be biological, I could care less. I don't condemn other human beings, I'm above that, and better than that.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
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July 4th, 2003, 09:03 AM
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Do you have a cite for that huge article you posted in four or five parts? I didn't see the author's name anywhere.
Thanks,
Shawn
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July 4th, 2003, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by FischerKing
Krang - you're studying law right? So I'll ask you a hypothetical - okay?
If you are speeding and a police person pulls you over and writes you a citation - who condemns you? The police person or the Law that was violated? Did the police person's opinion condemn you or the Law?
Christianity is a lifestyle and those who choose to live it does so according to certain spiritual laws. So if the Spiritual Law is the rule and the Spiritual Law condemns certain behaviors then who condemns the breaking of those behaviors - those who attempt to abide by the Law or the Law itself?
Granted - many Christians get it all turned around and think that they are the Law and so they feel that it's their right to spew hatred, be bigot's, show intolerance, etc. But that's no different than a police person who takes advantage of their knowledge of the Law and uses it as a weapon as opposed to something that is to protect the citizens.
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But Jesus, and more specifically God, never asked Christian's to persecute those who live differently. He told them to live by the laws, but not to judge others, that is God's jobs.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
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July 4th, 2003, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by FischerKing
Do you have a cite for that huge article you posted in four or five parts? I didn't see the author's name anywhere.
Thanks,
Shawn
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I found on a secondary site, Andrew Sullivan.com, but it is originally from the New Republic, a liberal publication.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
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July 4th, 2003, 09:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Strong Bad
And this is the point of view that organizations such as NAMBLA are hoping from.
At one time our culture dispised homosexuality. Now they accept it openly. Now our culture dispises organizations such as NAMBLA. How will out culture view such perverted organizations in 50 and 100 years???
Where does it stop?
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Oh please Strongbad....you must be the most stubborn person on this board.
NAMBLA WILL NEVER HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON.
Apples and Oranges.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
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July 4th, 2003, 09:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Krangthebrain
But Jesus, and more specifically God, never asked Christian's to persecute those who live differently. He told them to live by the laws, but not to judge others, that is God's jobs.
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That's what I just said in the post that you quoted of mine.
Thanks for the reference - I'll look it up.
The scripture that I was asking about - I've started searching for it but haven't found it yet. I'm sure I'll come across it shortly if it's to be found.
Shawn
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July 4th, 2003, 09:17 AM
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Meet Lyla Grace!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Not exactly sure, it deals with the four pillars of the Earth, which implies flat-ness.
As another thing that has been bothering me lately about the Bible. When Jesus meets the man possesed by the demon who calls himself Legion...Jesus believed he was possessed. Conventional wisdom now would suggest schizophrenia. If Jesus really was all knowing, he would have told him it was a mental disorder.
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Wow, I'm wondering how you somehow know it was a mental disorder and NOT actual demons?
8:30 And Jesus asked him, What is thy name? And he said, Legion; for many demons were entered into him. 8:31 And they entreated him that he would not command them to depart into the abyss. 8:32 Now there was there a herd of many swine feeding on the mountain: and they entreated him that he would give them leave to enter into them. And he gave them leave. 8:33 And the demons came out from the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd rushed down the steep into the lake, and were drowned.
I think the reason believed he was possessed was because he WAS possessed
Mike
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July 4th, 2003, 09:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Strong Bad
From what I have read from right wing christians on the AOL boards they state that if if if one's sexual preference is proven to be biologcal it should be treated the same way as those heterosexuals who are single. No sex outside of marriage.
Krang, let us relate this discussion to evolution. If our present existence is by means of evolution, evolution will eventually find a way for homosexuals to reproduce. Is there any scientific evidence of this happening?
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Huh? That is quite an assumption Strongbad (you know as in ass-u-me..... makes an ass out of you and me) There are quite a few (thousands actually) animals that committ acts of homosexuality. Baby hyenas run around sodomize each other all day....but I forgot, It's not natural.
There is a species of toads that when overpopulation occurs, many of them turn to into homosexuals. SO from an evolutionary standpoint homosexuality is good to control overpopulation
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Originally posted by Strong Bad
The evidence is based on speculation and not fact. Homosexuality has not been proven to be natural. Since you admit that homosexuality is abnormal how do you rationalize Audrey's comment regarding bi-sexuality? You surely, must admit that bi-sexuality is a behavior and not biological.
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No you are the one speculating that it is not natural. Obviously homosexuality has existed for at least 3 thousand years, and new scientific evidence points to it being biological. You choose to ignore that. Your position has NO evidence, except for belief.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
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July 4th, 2003, 09:40 AM
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Krycek, Alex Krycek
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Quote:
Originally posted by Krangthebrain
Just like the Evolution debate Strongbad, there is no scientific evidence that it is NOT biological.
If it was proven to not be biological, I could care less. I don't condemn other human beings, I'm above that, and better than that.
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The burden of proof is upon you guys to prove that it is biological.
By the way, believers always knew that the earth was round.
Isaiah 40: 22 "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in;"
Shawn, I think Krang is reffering to Revelation 7:1
"And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree."
Obviously "four corners" are acctually the cardinal directions.
"Kanaph" is the Hebrew word used in this phrase, and not Pinoh
Paioh, Ziovyoh, Krnouth.
Same word is used in Ezikiel 7:2:
"Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land."
and in Isaiah 11:12
"And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (reffering to the exiled Jews- read 10 and 11 for more info.)
Again, an accusation made without any research.
Stefan
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July 4th, 2003, 09:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chandler Mike
Wow, I'm wondering how you somehow know it was a mental disorder and NOT actual demons?
8:30 And Jesus asked him, What is thy name? And he said, Legion; for many demons were entered into him. 8:31 And they entreated him that he would not command them to depart into the abyss. 8:32 Now there was there a herd of many swine feeding on the mountain: and they entreated him that he would give them leave to enter into them. And he gave them leave. 8:33 And the demons came out from the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd rushed down the steep into the lake, and were drowned.
I think the reason believed he was possessed was because he WAS possessed 
Mike
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Well, I've never witnessed any demonic possesion, and there is no evidence that it has ever happened.
But you can believe that if you will, but I choose not to. 
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
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July 4th, 2003, 09:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by SirStefan32
The burden of proof is upon you guys to prove that it is biological.
By the way, believers always knew that the earth was round.
Isaiah 40: 22 "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in;"
Shawn, I think Krang is reffering to Revelation 7:1
"And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree."
Obviously "four corners" are acctually the cardinal directions.
"Kanaph" is the Hebrew word used in this phrase, and not Pinoh
Paioh, Ziovyoh, Krnouth.
Same word is used in Ezikiel 7:2:
"Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land."
and in Isaiah 11:12
"And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (reffering to the exiled Jews- read 10 and 11 for more info.)
Again, an accusation made without any research.
Stefan
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I never knew a globe had four corners. 
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
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