Strong Bad

I understand the difference just fine. I never said I consent or agree with NAMBLA's claims. Frankly, the organization makes me hurl and I believe they should be shut down. What I am pointing out is that they make the same claims homosexuals do. They claim that the man/boy love they promote is natural.

NAMBLA claims that everything is acceptable as long as the boy consents.

So why do homosexuals get to make certain claims and fight for certain rights but not NAMBLA?

justAndy

... even a weirdo like me knows that there is validity in protecting children. I can't even LOOK at high school girls anymore, not even college girls... ok, maybe grad students...
Behavior between 2 adult homos is.... ADULT.
Why do right wingers always play the "slippery slope" card? It's a bogus argument

Strong Bad

I am glad you admit that science hasn't proven that homosexuality yet. Frankly, from what I read on some of the AOL boards, right wing christians seem to already have an acceptable answer if science ever does prove homosexuality to be biological.

Krang, what do you think your homosexual friends will say if science proves one's sexuality is not biologically pretermined? Do you really think their choice of sexual partners will change?

Strong Bad

And again, I am not a right winger. All I did is show people that there is other organizations out there that make the same claims as homosexuals have.

I believe if the pattern of our culture continues it is only a matter of time before organizations such as NAMBLA become acceptable and legal. Most likely it will be when we are all long gone and buried, but the future can be predicted by looking at the past.

What were people saying about homosexuality 50 years ago?

Dback Jon

If a groups claims that human sacrifice is natural, does that make it right?

You are trying to compare apples and oranges. Consenting Adults vs non-consent.

Children do not have the mental reasoning to consent.

IF you can't tell the difference between gays and Nambla, there is no use in discussing this.

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Krangthebrain

Exactly.

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Strong Bad

Jon, NAMBLA does not accept non-consenting boys. Read their mtaerial and you will see that they talk about consenting adults with consenting boys.

If you refuse to see the similarities with what homosexuals went through 50 or so years ago and with what NAMBLA is going through today you are willfully being ignorant. Actually NAMBLA is far ahead of the homosexuals way back in the 1950s because of what homosexuals went through.

Just as there are many different groups of christians (using an example that you mentioned) there are also many different groups of sexual preference. Who's to say NAMBLA's claims are not as valid as the homosexual claims?

Krangthebrain

Nope. It isn't a matter of time before Nambla becomes legal. No reasonable person believes that men with boys is ok. For a group with twisted beliefs like NAMBLA to become legitimate, the Supreme Court would have to rule that it is alright for men to be with boys. Not going to happen in a thousand years, and it is illogical and unreasonable to think so.

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Krangthebrain

Children, under the law and in the belief of 99% of all adults, are not able to consent.

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Krangthebrain

The preponderence of evidence so far, shows that it is reasonable to assume that homosexuality is biological, not a choice. Most Scientist generally regard it as such.

Strongbad, do you actually believe someone would choose to be homosexual? As a hetero, you've heard all the jokes about homosexuals, and seen the torment that hetero males put homosexuals through. Do you want to believe that anyone would choose that?

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Strong Bad

I think the Supreme Court just overturned some laws regarding the illegal act of homosexuality.

None of us can predict the future 100% accurately, but the similarities between the homosexual movement 50-60 years ago and the NAMBLA movement of today are very similar.

You state that boys cannot give consent. Why? Because the law says so. Laws of this country are made by people and people's attitude changes over time. Abortion, homosexuality and more have all seen a legal and cultural change in the past 50 years. What makes you think the people will not change their thinking on NAMBLA?

Krangthebrain

But homosexuality is sex between two consenting ADULTS.

That (ADULT) is the key word Strongbad, not the consenting part. As Jon said, you are comparing apples and oranges.

Children are sacred. Maybe you just don't get it, or you are being extremely stubborn, trying to prove a point that does not exist.

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Strong Bad

Are we going to have another scientific evolution discussion? I love it when science uses the terms assumption, reasonable and preponderence of evidence so far. In reality all that means is that they don't know and their belief is based on an educated guess system.

I also said that I have seen some answers from the religious right wingers that give a reasonable conclusion of non-participation if homosexuality is ever proven to be biological.

Krang, your concept that homosexuality has to be biological based on what homosexuals have endured is anything but scientific. Humans have gone through a lot for just about everything. Let's use your arguments on another we discussed at length. There are scientists who do not believe in evolution. I am sure you've heard and even passed on jokes about those scientists as they have been continually ridiculed, made fun of and even tormented as evokutionary media have pointed them out and defamed their good names ... do you want to believe they would choose that?

Strong Bad

Actually, homosexuality is sexual activity between members of the same gender. You are including the ADULT part in your definition because it satisfies YOUR sense of morality. A point homosexuals made regarding their sexual preference a number of years ago.

Of course I am comparing apples to oranges. Your only problem is that they are still fruit. Homosexuality and NAMBLA both claim to be natural and acceptable when all parties involved are consenting. Homosexuality and NAMBLA may be different but they are still sexual preferences.

justAndy

ok - i still maintain that consenting adults have the right of free association. Freaking NAMBLA, pedophile priests, bad stepfathers - get a boot in the face from me.
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