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Being against the war in Iraq due to ideological reasons is ok... but more often, I get the impression that those who oppose Bush and the Republicans would like to see the U.S. Military fail in Iraq.
Failure in Iraq would cause a failure for the Republican party in the next and subsequent elections for some time. Conversely success in Iraq would likely secure elective victories for the Republican party.
So my question: Assumming that the Republicans will benefit from success in Iraq which would you rather have happen, success in Iraq or failure in Iraq?
******************* Note: public poll
Terms Republican and Democratic refer to political parties not ideologies
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Last edited by CardLogic; December 5th, 2005 at 11:20 AM.
Plus, I think success in Iraq is difined differently for different folks. To me success in Iraq can not be defined by won/lost because there is no real way to quantify it.
Success's objectives have been changed a few times by the difinition of the Administration.
I would vote for 'success in Iraq' and Democrats win..
Being against the war in Iraq due to ideological reasons is ok... but more often, I get the impression that those who oppose Bush and the Republicans would like to see the U.S. Military fail in Iraq.
Failure in Iraq would cause a failure for the Republican party in the next and subsequent elections for some time. Conversely success in Iraq would likely secure elective victories for the Republican party.
So my question: Assumming that the Republicans will benefit from success in Iraq which would you rather have happen, success in Iraq or failure in Iraq?
******************* Note: public poll
Terms Republican and Democratic refer to political parties not ideologies
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Serious question for you:
Do you think politics was one of the reasons this war was started?
It's a simple question: Do you want our military to be successfull in Iraq or not???
That's a simple question, but your poll includes two blatant caveats. This is a poor excuse for you to pick a fight....
Of course 99% of Americans truly want success. What is success, though? I propose that success is the assistance the US gives in the form of training, engineering and security that allows Iraq to build it's infrastructure in a way that they can become self-sufficient and we can get out. That's what "success" is in my mind with regards to Iraq. What does that have to do with Republican or Democratic power shifts?
This is the lamest poll I have ever read. I will abstain from voting....
That's a simple question, but your poll includes two blatant caveats. This is a poor excuse for you to pick a fight....
Of course 99% of Americans truly want success. What is success, though? I propose that success is the assistance the US gives in the form of training, engineering and security that allows Iraq to build it's infrastructure in a way that they can become self-sufficient and we can get out. That's what "success" is in my mind with regards to Iraq. What does that have to do with Republican or Democratic power shifts?
This is the lamest poll I have ever read. I will abstain from voting....
That's a simple question, but your poll includes two blatant caveats. This is a poor excuse for you to pick a fight....
Of course 99% of Americans truly want success. What is success, though? I propose that success is the assistance the US gives in the form of training, engineering and security that allows Iraq to build it's infrastructure in a way that they can become self-sufficient and we can get out. That's what "success" is in my mind with regards to Iraq. What does that have to do with Republican or Democratic power shifts?
This is the lamest poll I have ever read. I will abstain from voting....
Interesting... the terms in which you defined success sound very appropriate to me also!
Why accuse me of "trying to pick a fight"? I made an observation. I certainly could be wrong but I think that it is likely that the "fortunes" of the two political parties are riding upon whether or not the U.S. mililtary is successfull in Iraq. Do you disagree with the assumption?
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-Samuel Langhorne Clemens
No, I have never read that. I disagree that we got into this mess, but since we are there, we can't just up and leave and allow Iraq to implode into itself. We have to do what's right and help the citizens of Iraq get their country and their lives back....
No, I have never read that. I disagree that we got into this mess, but since we are there, we can't just up and leave and allow Iraq to implode into itself. We have to do what's right and help the citizens of Iraq get their country and their lives back....
So I asked, " Do you support those objectives even though achieving them will likely enable the Republicans continued dominance in the national political arena?"
What is so inflammatory about my question???
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"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please."
-Samuel Langhorne Clemens