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Actually he owns one of the largest farms in the south and has worked for every penny he has.
But you have shown your prejudice Ryan (against southerners). And you have shown that you are a first class jerk.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Originally posted by Chaplin It's ironic, in that I believe that we've been in a civil war for years now, and it still continues--whether it be Republicans vs. Democrats, or black vs. white, there is absolutely no equality in this country--and there probably never will be. But cessessionist antagonization is not the way to address the issue.
Nice post Chap.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Originally posted by SirChaz The real tragedy is "All men are created equal" was not realized from the beginning. That would have and should have put an end to slavery right there.
The Civil War started over the States right to leave the Union. Later slavery became an issue and is currently taught as the reason for the war.
I don't doubt some of these people are whacko, but aren't all people entitled to freedom and personal liberty?
I am for these people living how they want to live as long as it is not achieved at the expense of others.
At what expense? These people want to put themselves on a pedestal, and say whatever we want, we should get - but screw the rest of you. That is not America. The only way for these people to achieve their goals IS AT THE EXPENSE of others, namely non-whites, all females, anyone that doesn't follow thier brand of Christianity.
Originally posted by tommcnabb To be back on topic, I say good for them. To the people that oppose them I say
What are you scared of?
Are you jealous?
Why not create a United Republic of Liberal Left-Wingers?
I don't live in the South, nor do I plan to anytime soon and realistically I don't think they can really accomplish this anytime soon (see next 50 years) but hey, whatever floats their canoe.
I personally like it when people feel strongly enough about their personal convictions to do something about it, rather than piss and moan all day.
Even though it might not hold water, they actually believe in the cause and they act on it.
Good for them.
Tom
You can't be serious, are you?
So you think it is ok for a bunch of KKK'ers to carve out a separate nation for themselves??
By your reasoning, you must be a big supporter of the Taliban and Al-Queda - after all, they believe in a cause and are acting on it.
It is not about Liberal vs. Conservative - the US works great with both types.
Originally posted by Dback Jon You can't be serious, are you?
So you think it is ok for a bunch of KKK'ers to carve out a separate nation for themselves??
By your reasoning, you must be a big supporter of the Taliban and Al-Queda - after all, they believe in a cause and are acting on it.
It is not about Liberal vs. Conservative - the US works great with both types.
Yes, I am serious.
You paint them as KKKr's. You know them?? Personally?
Maybe the NAACP is a front for a Black Panther revival.
Your logic is out of whack.
Do any of us here really think they have a snowballs chance in Hell of accomplishing their goals, realistically??
How about NOW or NAACP or any other self-promoting cause? Of course, they are different because they don't want their own nation but you never know.
Maybe a lesbian nation would be good.
I just don't have a problem with what they're doing; that's all.
A long time ago in the south there were a few friends of this king or that governor. They were "granted" huge tracts of the best land. Immigrants, mostly Scottish, colonized the hills and hollows. The land was poor, and so were they. The rich white folks imported captive Africans to work their immense plantations, under a totally unjustfiable doctrine of the NONHUMANITY of the Africans. The rich landowners did not want to pay a living wage to the poor whites, but they sure were able to sell racist hate, and the poor whites for the most part went along with it, instead of vilifying the rich whites for not hiring their poor whire brothers.
It's always about the money at the root of it. If dumbass poor whites want to glorify their OWN oppression by clinging to nonexistant white supremacy, so be it. I hate that damn stars and bars - it's the American Swastika. The confederacy was anti-American, and the KKK is the most harmful by far of ant terrorist group ever seen in this country! We can't change the past, but why pine for a return to it?
... upon assuming power, I will disband my own office, the legislature, and the courts. Corporations will have to split into local companies. Blockwatch would be the local police. Victims of violent crime will either take personal revenge, or get compensation. Rapists will be castrated, pedophiles will be killed. Churches larger than 30 congregation will be outlawed. Private sexual behavior between consenting adults will be just that. Abortion will be permissable to 20 weeks for any reason, after 20 weeks, must be justfiable by woman's health. All citizens will be trained in use of automatic weapons, All American soldiers will come home home - no more Pax Americana, which just benefits a few rich folks anyway....
boy am i tired!
Originally posted by Dback Jon At what expense? These people want to put themselves on a pedestal, and say whatever we want, we should get - but screw the rest of you. That is not America. The only way for these people to achieve their goals IS AT THE EXPENSE of others, namely non-whites, all females, anyone that doesn't follow thier brand of Christianity.
I didn't read where these people want to dominate the world or make anyone practice anything. It was you that are assuming they are KKKers and bigots and want to secede to oppress people. If they want to run their State, county, or town based on Christian values so what. Unless they start enslaving people or infringing people's rights I say they are free to pursue happiness as they see it. Oppression and tyranny can come from social idealists or religious fanatics alike, the results are the same.
It is not about Liberal vs. Conservative.
You are right its not, it is about power. A centralized omnipresent power or a local divided power, that is the choice as I see it.
Originally posted by andikrist A long time ago in the south there were a few friends of this king or that governor. They were "granted" huge tracts of the best land. Immigrants, mostly Scottish, colonized the hills and hollows. The land was poor, and so were they. The rich white folks imported captive Africans to work their immense plantations, under a totally unjustfiable doctrine of the NONHUMANITY of the Africans. The rich landowners did not want to pay a living wage to the poor whites, but they sure were able to sell racist hate, and the poor whites for the most part went along with it, instead of vilifying the rich whites for not hiring their poor whire brothers.
It's always about the money at the root of it. If dumbass poor whites want to glorify their OWN oppression by clinging to nonexistant white supremacy, so be it. I hate that damn stars and bars - it's the American Swastika. The confederacy was anti-American, and the KKK is the most harmful by far of ant terrorist group ever seen in this country! We can't change the past, but why pine for a return to it?
Best post of the thread, and I agree totally.
Being a southerner, I believe the Civil War (on both sides) was one of the best examples of the poor man fighting for the rich man's rights. My great great grandfather fought at in the Civil War at the age of 45, and he didn't own any slaves, just like 95% of the Confederate Army.
I don't necessarily agree that it is the American Swastika, but I do agree that it is now a symbol of oppression and needs to be taken down.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
No, the United States isn't perfect. It is a republic created by human beings, therefore it is inherently flawed. But it is by far the best system that we've come up with so far.
Originally posted by Ryanwb You are right, I was being a jackass...please accept my apologies
Maybe I was being too sensitive....
I mean, why should I get offended if it isn't true about my family...
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Originally posted by SirChaz I didn't read where these people want to dominate the world or make anyone practice anything. It was you that are assuming they are KKKers and bigots and want to secede to oppress people. If they want to run their State, county, or town based on Christian values so what. Unless they start enslaving people or infringing people's rights I say they are free to pursue happiness as they see it. Oppression and tyranny can come from social idealists or religious fanatics alike, the results are the same.
It is not about Liberal vs. Conservative.
You are right its not, it is about power. A centralized omnipresent power or a local divided power, that is the choice as I see it.
When some one wants to make one religion the official religion, and base the laws on it (their interpretation of that religion), then that is oppresion of those who do not share those beliefs. All of this talk is just white-supremecy dressed up pretty.
By running a state, county or town based on their "Christian" Values, they will by definition be infringing on other's rights. If you don't think living in a Theocracy is such a big deal, why don't you try living in Iran for a year or two, then come back and let me know how you liked it.
I would rather have a strong federal government, than a bunch of good ol' boys terrorizing the community, oppressing everyone else.
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