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Old December 2nd, 2005, 07:58 AM   #1
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Soldiers should be in jail


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Sentenced to three years in prison, Staff Sergeant Johnny Horne was also demoted to the rank of private, ordered to forfeit all pay and handed a dishonourable discharge at a court martial in the Iraqi capital, the army said.A US soldier was jailed for three years for shooting an unarmed and wounded civilian in Baghdad's Sadr City, as Iraqi security forces were again targeted in attacks that killed 11 across the country.

Amid the violence, one US soldier was killed in Al-Anbar province, where renewed fighting erupted in the former rebel stronghold of Fallujah after days of relative calm following last month's blistering assault on the city, the US military said.
This is sick!

The soldier shot a wounded Iraq and he was unarmed! How stupid can he be? Its not like if he went up to hug him he could be killed. Its not like you only know he is unarmed until after he is dead! These soldiers should all be handed over to the iraq security forces and placed in iraqi trials.

If they get beheaded THEY EARNED IT!
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Old December 2nd, 2005, 08:03 AM   #2
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This is sick!

The soldier shot a wounded Iraq and he was unarmed! How stupid can he be? Its not like if he went up to hug him he could be killed. Its not like you only know he is unarmed until after he is dead! These soldiers should all be handed over to the iraq security forces and placed in iraqi trials.

If they get beheaded THEY EARNED IT!

Why don't you ask those soldiers where they get their orders from...... I'll give you a hint: his name ryhmes with Tush.
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Old December 2nd, 2005, 08:05 AM   #3
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Why don't you ask those soldiers where they get their orders from...... I'll give you a hint: his name ryhmes with Tush.

exactly right

In fact in my newest december edition of "conservative can go to hell" I read that they actually have video of Dubya going from battalion to battalion giving the order. and even gave the order for a code red once or twice! :
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Old December 2nd, 2005, 08:08 AM   #4
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Is this part of the plan also?

Maybe I should say congratulations to President Draft-Dodging Chickenhawk for finally coming up with a "strategy for victory" in Iraq. (Note to President Dubya: A good stratagy for victory is to have a strategy for victory before the war.)

Too bad this "strategy" is the same ol' rehashed "stay the course" blather he's been spewing for the last two years.

Stay what course? The course where you send in just enough troops to lose? Where you ignore pre-war military planning? Where you create a terrorist training ground where there was non before? Where you stretch our military to the breaking point because you thought we'd be "greeted as liberators" and declared "mission accomplished" two months into the war and so didn't plan for a drawn out occupation and bloody insurgency?

Where you like to strut around in a flight suit proclaiming yourself commander-in-chief uttering dangerous inanities like "Bring it on!" yet you don't admit a single mistake let alone take resposibility for your egregious blunders? Stay that course?

God help our troops who are suffering because of his lies.
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Old December 2nd, 2005, 08:11 AM   #5
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Is this part of the plan also?

Maybe I should say congratulations to President Draft-Dodging Chickenhawk for finally coming up with a "strategy for victory" in Iraq. (Note to President Dubya: A good stratagy for victory is to have a strategy for victory before the war.)

Too bad this "strategy" is the same ol' rehashed "stay the course" blather he's been spewing for the last two years.

Stay what course? The course where you send in just enough troops to lose? Where you ignore pre-war military planning? Where you create a terrorist training ground where there was non before? Where you stretch our military to the breaking point because you thought we'd be "greeted as liberators" and declared "mission accomplished" two months into the war and so didn't plan for a drawn out occupation and bloody insurgency?

Where you like to strut around in a flight suit proclaiming yourself commander-in-chief uttering dangerous inanities like "Bring it on!" yet you don't admit a single mistake let alone take resposibility for your egregious blunders? Stay that course?

God help our troops who are suffering because of his lies.

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Old December 2nd, 2005, 09:25 AM   #6
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Why don't you ask those soldiers where they get their orders from...... I'll give you a hint: his name ryhmes with Tush.





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Old December 2nd, 2005, 09:40 AM   #7
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This is sick!

The soldier shot a wounded Iraq and he was unarmed! How stupid can he be? Its not like if he went up to hug him he could be killed. Its not like you only know he is unarmed until after he is dead! These soldiers should all be handed over to the iraq security forces and placed in iraqi trials.

If they get beheaded THEY EARNED IT!
I don't see how anyone can pass judgement here with so little information. Was the guy just laying there in the street? Was he identified a threat? This is really poor reporting.
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Old December 2nd, 2005, 09:59 AM   #8
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Is this part of the plan also?

Maybe I should say congratulations to President Draft-Dodging Chickenhawk for finally coming up with a "strategy for victory" in Iraq. (Note to President Dubya: A good stratagy for victory is to have a strategy for victory before the war.)

Too bad this "strategy" is the same ol' rehashed "stay the course" blather he's been spewing for the last two years.

Stay what course? The course where you send in just enough troops to lose? Where you ignore pre-war military planning? Where you create a terrorist training ground where there was non before? Where you stretch our military to the breaking point because you thought we'd be "greeted as liberators" and declared "mission accomplished" two months into the war and so didn't plan for a drawn out occupation and bloody insurgency?

Where you like to strut around in a flight suit proclaiming yourself commander-in-chief uttering dangerous inanities like "Bring it on!" yet you don't admit a single mistake let alone take resposibility for your egregious blunders? Stay that course?

God help our troops who are suffering because of his lies.


What are you talking about? What lies? Bush's plan is working in Iraq and is making progress each day. did you know:
  • Lt. Col. Fred Wellman, A Spokesman For The U.S. Command, "Said About 33 Iraqi Security Battalions Are Now In Charge Of Their Own 'Battle Space,' Including Parts Of Baghdad. That Figure Was At 24 In Late October ... [And] It Stood At Three In March." (Robert Burns, "More Iraqi Security Forces Playing Lead Roles In Fight AgainstInsurgency," The Associated Press, 11/29/05)
  • "[A]mericans Have Pulled Out Of 30 'Forward Operating Bases' Inside Iraq, Of Which 16 Have Been Transferred To Iraqi Security Forces." (Robert Burns, "More Iraqi Security Forces Playing Lead Roles In Fight Against Insurgency," The Associated Press, 11/29/05)
  • "Since The Jan. 30 Election, Not A Single Iraqi Unit Has Crumbled In Battle, According To Army Lt. Gen. David H. Petraeus, Who Until September Was In Charge Of Their Training." (Max Boot, Op-Ed,"Iraq's A Lost Cause? Ask The Real Experts," Los Angeles Times, 11/23/05)
    The Iraqi Ministry Of Defense Announced "Operation Steel Curtain" Is Nearing Its Final Stage. The Operation Has Resulted In Over 130 Killed And Over 250 Arrested. (Department Of Defense Website, www.defendamerica.mil, Accessed 11/29/05)
  • U.S. And Iraqi Forces Launched Operation Iron Hammer In Western Iraq This Week To Clear The Area Of Terrorists. (Chris Tomlinson, "U.S., Iraqi Troops Launch Operation Against Insurgents In Western Iraq," The Associated Press, 11/30/05)
  • The Site, 85 Miles West Of Baghdad, Is A Suspected Safe Area Used To Make Car And Roadside Bombs. (Chris Tomlinson, "U.S., Iraqi Troops Launch Operation Against Insurgents In Western Iraq," The Associated Press, 11/30/05)
  • Hungary Recently Donated Over 70 Tanks And Over 30 Armored Vehicles To The New Iraqi Army. (Department Of Defense Website, www.defendamerica.mil, Accessed 11/29/05)
  • This Equipment Donation Represents The Largest To The Iraqi Army To Date. (Department Of Defense Website, www.defendamerica.mil, Accessed 11/29/05)
  • "The United Gulf Bank (UGB) Of Bahrain, Has Completed Investment In Iraq's Bank Of Baghdad ..." (Department Of Defense Website, www.defendamerica.mil, Accessed 11/29/05)
  • "The New Investment Increases Bank Of Baghdad's Capital Tenfold ..." (Department Of Defense Website, www.defendamerica.mil, Accessed 11/29/05)
  • "[T]he Brookings Institution Reports That Per Capita Income Has Doubled Since 2003 And Is Now 30% Higher Than It Was Before The War." (Max Boot, Op-Ed,"Iraq's A Lost Cause? Ask The Real Experts," Los Angeles Times, 11/23/05)
  • "The Pew Research Center And The Council On Foreign Relations Just Released A Survey Of American Elites That Found That 64% Of Military Officers Are Confident That We Will Succeed In Establishing A Stable Democracy In Iraq." (Max Boot, Op-Ed,"Iraq's A Lost Cause? Ask The Real Experts," Los Angeles Times, 11/23/05)
  • Chairman Of The Joint Chiefs, Gen. Peter Pace: "Over 30,000 New Businesses Have Come On-Line In Iraq." (Gen. Peter Pace, Remarks At The National Defense University, Washington, D.C., 12/1/05)
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it will never be over. We cannot win a war unless we get help from the UN.
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You have got to be the dumbest person on this board. lol
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SWD, the next time we meet up remind me to buy you a beer!
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SWD, the next time we meet up remind me to buy you a beer!
If youhave extra money to be buying beers you arent being taxed enough to help those less fortunate!
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Old December 2nd, 2005, 11:15 AM   #15
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it will never be over. We cannot win a war unless we get help from the UN.
This war is unwinnable. All we are accomplishing is turning those that would have liked us into terrorists. W and his cronies put us there to make themselves rich. They don't care if a soldier is dead or in jail as long as they get their cut.
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