December 3rd, 2004, 01:07 PM
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RIP George
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Science gets twisted again by GW and the gang
http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/12....ap/index.html
Some choice quotes are
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"The popular claim that condoms help prevent the spread of STDs, is not supported by the data," the program's teacher's manual says.
The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other researchers have found that consistent and correct condom use does protect against transmissions of many STDs, the report said.
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the report said. The FACTS middle school program, developed by Northwest Family Services, says, "Conception, also known as fertilization, occurs when one sperm unites with one egg in the upper third of the fallopian tube. This is when life begins."
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Sounds like mixing religion and biology to me
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In another instance, the Why kNOw curriculum asserts "twenty-four chromosomes from the mother and twenty-four chromosomes from the father join to create this new individual," the report said. The correct number is 23 each.
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Opps, guess they authors wern't to well informed.
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Some curriculums also rely on what Waxman called damaging stereotypes about boys and girls, including that girls care less about achievement and their futures.
The Why kNOw curriculum teaches: "Women gauge their happiness and judge their success by their relationships. Men's happiness and success hinge on their accomplishments."
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Get back in the kitchen ! All I need now is a way to convince Brighteyes that her place is defined for her. Inquiring minds want to know if this applies to gay men ?
Last edited by nidan; December 3rd, 2004 at 01:09 PM.
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December 3rd, 2004, 01:11 PM
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Geez...I imagine bush has gotta be pissed. He more than doubles the funding since taking office and these programs still get the facts messed up.
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December 3rd, 2004, 01:16 PM
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RIP George
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Messed up, maybe it's part of the agenda, it certainly sounds like it to me.
Its all very small but there seems to be a constant drumbeat of fundementalist views. Even if it being done in small and hard to refute steps.
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December 3rd, 2004, 01:34 PM
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H.S.
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I'm not saying the book isn't slanted, but:
1. Conception IS defined as fertilization. Look it up in any dictionary.
2. Men and women are wired different. I'll bet there are scientific studies out there that support that we have differnt definitions of "success" on the whole and that men are more likely to base it on achievements and womne on relationships. Why is one right and one wrong? Seems to me basing success on relationships would be more fulfilling. Nidan, aren't you injecting your own (possibly male-centric) bias into the meaning of "success" by assuming that women wouldn't see it differently?
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December 3rd, 2004, 02:08 PM
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R U gonna B My Girl
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Your TOO
funny Ian.
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December 3rd, 2004, 02:08 PM
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RIP George
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Originally Posted by Pariah
I'm not saying the book isn't slanted, but:
1. Conception IS defined as fertilization. Look it up in any dictionary.
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Yep, but the last sentance in the one in question on when "life" begins. Like I said it is subtle propaganda.
Make a fundementalist statement but in a small, harder to find way. It's part of the process/agenda. It the creeping growth of fundementalist views into official or offical sounding documents.
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Originally Posted by Pariah
2. Men and women are wired different. I'll bet there are scientific studies out there that support that we have differnt definitions of "success" on the whole and that men are more likely to base it on achievements and womne on relationships. Why is one right and one wrong? Seems to me basing success on relationships would be more fulfilling. Nidan, aren't you injecting your own (possibly male-centric) bias into the meaning of "success" by assuming that women wouldn't see it differently?
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I was somewhat tounge in cheek on this one. My experience suggests that most women see everything differently to me. I like most men just do not and never will understand what really motivates them, other than flowers that is. That always seems to work. |
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December 3rd, 2004, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nidan
Yep, but the last sentance in the one in question on when "life" begins. Like I said it is subtle propaganda.
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This topic has been discussed before....
but I'd say in a strict, biological interpretation, that the zygote is definitely a living cell. So, I don't have too much of a problem with the actual sentence, although I do agree there is no doubt an agenda behind it.
The 24 chromosomes from each parent is hilarious though! 
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December 3rd, 2004, 04:38 PM
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I propose a new rule for every thread posted by Nidan - the title must be changed to "George Bush Really Freaking Sucks: Reason Number . . ." 
I can't deal with all of this anymore - Nidan - you know that by reading and watching the news you are just gonna make yourself miserable - just do what I've done - oye - I was gonna say just concentrate on the Cardinals - but that's gonna make you miserable right now also. Okay - her's my advice - put yourself into a media protected cocoon - I think that's the only way ANY of us anti-Bush guys are gonna survive and keep telling yourself this - he can't be President forever . . . that is unless there somehow is an amendment to the Constitution calling for revocation of term limits - if that happens - you have two choices - move back to England or kill yourself - but look on the bright side - at least you can move back to where you're from.
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December 3rd, 2004, 04:47 PM
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H.S.
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Originally Posted by nidan
Yep, but the last sentance in the one in question on when "life" begins. Like I said it is subtle propaganda.
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I missed that. Sorry. (are you sure you didn't edit it in?  ) |
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December 3rd, 2004, 07:56 PM
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RIP George
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You got me Cheesie, I confess I really, really don't like GW, but it's the reason that is [hopfully] interesting.
In discussions with jstadvl a few days ago, I was trying to define exactly what concerns me, because it isn't religion or religious folks, not at all. So what is it.
It's the agenda I see the leaders of the GOP and their backers having. Everything I see tells me they really want to move this country to fundementalist Christian govenment.
The type of government that is intolerant of other religions,of science where they perceive a conflict with the Bible. Basicly moving our government and legal system back 100-200 years, maybe more.
Its the agenda that has me so worked up, not religion.
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