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Old June 30th, 2006, 12:39 PM   #1
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Saftey Nannies want ban on fireworks


The Right to Bear Firecrackers...
Thursday, June 29, 2006
By Steven Milloy

As Americans prepare to celebrate the Fourth of July, safety nannies will be urging a national ban on the sale and use of consumer fireworks.

Citing injuries to children as the primary concern, a report in the July issue of Pediatrics will reiterate the American Academy of Pediatrics long-standing call for a consumer fireworks ban. It’s no coincidence that the study is being released the day before our July 4 holiday.

But before we allow the nannies to trample over our recreational – not to mention our civil – liberties on the holiday intended to celebrate liberty itself, let’s consider a few relevant points.

First, there’s no question that unsafe use of fireworks – like unsafe use of virtually anything – can cause injury and/or death.

In the case of fireworks, since the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission began keeping records in 1976, the number of fireworks-related injuries has ranged between 7,300 injuries to 12,600 injuries per year; about 45 percent of the injuries occur in children under 14, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

But during this time, the consumption of fireworks has risen nearly 10-fold – from 29 million pounds in 1976 to 281.5 million pounds in 2005. The annual rate of fireworks injuries has actually declined from 38.3 injuries per 100,000 pounds of fireworks sold in 1976 to 3.8 injuries per 100,000 pounds of fireworks sold in 2005, according to the CPSC.


This improved safety rate cannot be attributed to an increase in sales to professional pyrotechnicians. The consumption of backyard fireworks -- which are legal in 45 states -- hit a record high of 255 million pounds in 2005, according to the American Pyrotechnics Association. Sales to professional pyrotechnicians account for less than 10 percent of the total sales of fireworks.

The bottom line is that more backyard fireworks are being used more safely than ever before.

Undoubtedly, the self-righteous nannies among us will gasp that even a single injury is one too many. Ideally that would be true. But in the real world, such intolerance is neither practiced nor practical.

More than 200,000 children ages 14 and younger are treated every year in emergency rooms for playground-related injuries, according to the CDC. During the 1990s, 147 children died from playground injuries. Climbers on public playgrounds and home swings appear to be the most “dangerous” equipment.

Although some schools have altered or removed some pieces of playground equipment – slides, monkey bars, and merry-go-rounds, for example – due to liability concerns in our litigation-prone society, there is no call to ban playgrounds in order to avoid injuries to children.

Similarly, motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death among U.S. children (an average of 5 deaths per day according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration). While we may try to make cars safer in order to reduce the likelihood and severity of injury, we don’t ban children from riding in cars.

The nannies may try to counter that while cars and playgrounds have social utility that outweighs the risks they entail, the risks of backyard fireworks far outweigh their social utility. But backyard fireworks, when used safely, have great social utility in that they are simply fun.

It’s important to note that the lead author of the Pediatrics report -- Center for Injury Research and Policy director Gary Smith -- seems to be more anti-fun that pro-safety. He’s not recommending steps for increased fireworks safety, but simply calling for an outright ban.

Moreover, Smith has published numerous reports in just the past year about the dangers inherent to a host of recreational activities including: trampolines (should not be used at home); cheerleading (uniform rules and regulations needed to increase safety); sledding (a program is needed to increase helmet use); water-skiing and wake-boarding (helmets and other protective gear should be worn); and ice skating (children should wear helmets).

Smith has also gone after more mundane things such as riding lawnmowers (children under 16 shouldn’t operate them); eyeglasses (safer designs needed) and shopping carts (should be redesigned to decrease tip-over hazards). He seems only to have overlooked the danger of mindlessly scaring people about everything.


I’m more than happy to let behavior nannies like Smith and the American Academy of Pediatrics stay inside with their helmets on and worship at the altar of safety-at-all-costs. But they should leave the rest of us alone to enjoy the blessings of freedom – safely, of course.



Steven Milloy publishes JunkScience.com and CSRWatch.com. He is a junk science expert, an advocate of free enterprise and an adjunct scholar at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.
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Old June 30th, 2006, 12:50 PM   #2
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I'd have 2 criticisms of that. Comparing fireworks injuries to car accidents or playground accidents is highly flawed. I'd bet that probably 90+% of all firework related injuries happen in about a 10 day period everyear 5 days before and after July 4th. Kids use playgrounds and ride in cars every day of the year. So the author is arguing that people forget to account for the increase in how many fireworks are being used, which is true, but he's completely forgetting his comparisons don't account for the frequency of use. If people were buying and using fireworks all year long, the numbers would be a lot higher.

He seems to only be worried about injuries, what about fires? I think fireworks were banned my area about 25 years ago, but I can recall at least 3 homes in my neighborhood catching on fire from fireworks.

To me the main problem with fireworks is that they know darn well that a lot of people don't use them as intended. And that's where the problems are.

But I do readily admit to this day I get depressed thinking rememer when I was a kid and it was legal to set off fireworks in the street out in front of my house?
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Old June 30th, 2006, 01:04 PM   #3
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After reading the nannies concerns, I am shocked that any of us survived childhood.
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Old June 30th, 2006, 01:50 PM   #4
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Particulary as I got to play with fireworrks as a child, just on Nov 5th not July 4th
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Old June 30th, 2006, 01:55 PM   #5
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Particulary as I got to play with fireworrks as a child, just on Nov 5th not July 4th
i always thought guy fawkes night was just a bit morbid.
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Old June 30th, 2006, 02:00 PM   #6
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Never thought about it.

Burning a stuffed Guy Fawkes is pretty routine in UK, as was letting kids light fireworks under supervision.

In hindsight I guess it isn't very PC
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Never thought about it.

Burning a stuffed Guy Fawkes is pretty routine in UK, as was letting kids light fireworks under supervision.

In hindsight I guess it isn't very PC

until i actually heard the story, i thought guy fawkes was a hero to the british, not a villain. i never would have assumed it was the other way around.
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He is a stuffed manakin we burn every year.

Not exactly hero worship. He tried to blow up the hoses of parliment in the 1600s iirc
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He is a stuffed manakin we burn every year.

Not exactly hero worship. He tried to blow up the hoses of parliment in the 1600s iirc

that's what i mean. you would think if someone has a day named after them it would be because he was revered, not reviled.
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Particulary as I got to play with fireworrks as a child, just on Nov 5th not July 4th

Guy Fawkes day?
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He is a stuffed manakin we burn every year.

Not exactly hero worship. He tried to blow up the hoses of parliment in the 1600s iirc

Now I have to complain to my mom because I've known about Guy Fawkes my whole life but I too never knew he was a bad guy!
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The Gunpowder Plot of 1605


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Preparations for Bonfire Night celebrations include making a dummy of Guy Fawkes, which is called "the Guy". Some children even keep up an old tradition of walking in the streets, carrying "the Guy" they have just made, and beg passersby for "a penny for the Guy." The kids use the money to buy fireworks for the evening festivities.
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