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Originally Posted by se7en
I see a man lying and invading a country where hundreds of thousands of people have died. I see a man reducing our freedoms and diminishing the constitution. I see a man who has illegally imprisoned thousands of people around the world and tortured innocent people. I see a man hell bent on destroying our economy by giving billions of dollars in contracts to his close connections in the oil, military industrial complex and construction businesses. I see an administration without any checks and balances, who continues to break laws without punishment. I think there are a lot of dictatorial qualities going on here…
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Originally Posted by 40yearfan
And this man has bypassed Congress to do all this? You obviously have no idea how this government works if you truly believe one man is powerful enough to do all this.
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Gentlemen, I think that's the issue here between the great red / blue divide in America.
Most that se7en says is correct (in reference to the quote above).
IBC puts the civilian deaths at 86,661 as of this post.
This is at the very low range of estimated deaths, and only uses press reports to change the total. Some estimates put it at a much higher number, in some cases, 10 times + the number above.
Diminishing / reducing the constitution - FISA / Gitmo (for US citizens).
Illegally imprisoned - Gitmo / CIA methods of rendition.
Billions of dollars to companies through no bid contracts - KBR, Halliburton, Bechtel, numerous other defense companies.
Checks and balances - This is where, to some degree, I disagree. Congress has acted like a coward here - willingly giving up their oversight capability, approving budgets and additional funds, and approving blanket measures. Ironically, if anything, it seems that the courts have held while Congress has abdicated their constitutional duties.
So, when some people call se7en a "Drama Queen", they either understand very little about the current political situation, or simply choose to ignore it.
Keep preachin, brother.
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