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Old May 7th, 2004, 09:28 PM   #1
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Rumsfeld: More Photos, Videos in Iraq Abuse Scandal


The abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib prison includes more photographs and videos that are potentially worse than the photos shown around the world of smiling American soldiers next to naked Iraqi prisoners in humiliating positions, U.S. officials said on Friday.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing, said there were many more photos and videotapes that had not been published showing cruel and sadistic acts by U.S. personnel.

"I've said today that there are a lot more photographs and videos that exist. If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse. That's just a fact," Rumsfeld said.

"I mean I looked at them last night and they're hard to believe," he said. "And if they're sent to some news organization and taken out of the criminal prosecution channels that they're in, that's where we'll be. And it's not a pretty picture."

The photographs published so far have shown naked Iraqi prisoners piled on top of each other. One prisoner is shown with a leash around his neck held by a female American soldier, and one has women's underwear over his head.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, asked Rumsfeld during the hearing whether he had seen the video. Rumsfeld said he had not seen it.

"Apparently the worst is yet to come potentially in terms of disturbing events," Graham said.


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Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, asked Rumsfeld during the hearing whether he had seen the video. Rumsfeld said he had not seen it.

"Apparently the worst is yet to come potentially in terms of disturbing events," Graham said.

Troubling, but really not that surprising.
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NY'ER: Photos show dog attacking a naked Iraqi detainee
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In “Chain of Command,” in the May 17, 2004, issue of The New Yorker, Seymour M. Hersh describes new photos he has obtained of a dog attacking a naked Iraqi detainee at Abu Ghraib prison on December 12, 2003. The photos, which had been in the possession of a member of the 320th Military Police Battalion, show the Iraqi with his hands clasped behind his back, “leaning against the door to a cell, contorted with terror, as the dogs bark a few feet away,” Hersh reports. In another photo, taken a few minutes later, “the Iraqi is lying on the ground, writhing in pain, with a soldier sitting on top of him, knee pressed to his back. Blood is streaming from the inmate’s leg.” Retired Major General Charles Hines, who was commandant of the Army’s military police school during a twenty-eight year career in military-law enforcement, tells Hersh, “I would never have authorized it for interrogating or coercing prisoners. If I had, I’d have been put in jail or kicked out of the Army.”


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For gods sake I hope they contain something a little more painful than the first few pathetic ones.
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Just plain sickening... This is pathetic.
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Just plain sickening... This is pathetic.

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