Ron Paul's Solution To The Economic Collapse

82CardsGrad · July 20th, 2009, 08:23 PM

I swear... you put Paul's words spewing from Obama's lips, and this country would be flying!

http://www.businessinsider.com/henry...ollapse-2009-7

BirdMan21 · July 20th, 2009, 08:30 PM

I am a huge Ron Paul fan and truly believe that if he looked like Mitt Romney he could have won the Republican nomination easily. People that don't take the time to listen to him see a crazy old man that reminds them of Ross Perot.

Such logical and easy solutions to so many problems come out of his mouth. Its too bad more people don't listen to him or think like him.

conraddobler · July 20th, 2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdMan21

I am a huge Ron Paul fan and truly believe that if he looked like Mitt Romney he could have won the Republican nomination easily. People that don't take the time to listen to him see a crazy old man that reminds them of Ross Perot.

Such logical and easy solutions to so many problems come out of his mouth. Its too bad more people don't listen to him or think like him.

I dunno, things cycle in America, during the depression a lot of people actually felt relief at not having to live such a materialistic lifestyle, families drew closer, people survived.

To me American Idol, reality TV, John and Kate plus 8, it's all going to crash and burn, people are shifting and maybe someone like Ron Paul will emerge, I hope so, our country needs someone like Mr. Paul.

Duckjake · July 21st, 2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by conraddobler

I dunno, things cycle in America, during the depression a lot of people actually felt relief at not having to live such a materialistic lifestyle, families drew closer, people survived.

To me American Idol, reality TV, John and Kate plus 8, it's all going to crash and burn, people are shifting and maybe someone like Ron Paul will emerge, I hope so, our country needs someone like Mr. Paul.

That is exactly what I see happening. A huge Paradigm shift away from the race to acquisition. The destruction of "he who has the most toys when he dies wins" mentality. Not because the American mindset changed but because only a small few will be able to afford to stay in the race.

The problem with this is that our economy has become dependent on the pursuit of the highlife. There is going to be some severe pain as we move back to a more economically sustainable lifestyle.

Off topic: As regards reality tv etc. I am really concerned about the proliferation of TV shows that promote rude behavior. American Idol, The Apprentice etal. Our kids and grandkids won't have any manners at all if this keeps up.

What ever happened to telling someone "we appreciate your efforts but they just don't meet our requirements" instead of "you suck you're outta here".

D-Dogg · July 21st, 2009, 06:00 PM

What a crazy lunatic. He and all his fringe tinfoil hat followers are the real threat to America.

CaptTurbo · July 21st, 2009, 07:07 PM

One day people will look back, most likely during a real collapse and say hey we need this Ron Paul guy look at everything he said was dead on. But by then Paul will most likely be retired. He gave us a lot of chances to do the right thing but the average american isnt smart enough to understand.

82CardsGrad · July 21st, 2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by swd1974

One day people will look back, most likely during a real collapse and say hey we need this Ron Paul guy look at everything he said was dead on. But by then Paul will most likely be retired. He gave us a lot of chances to do the right thing but the average american isnt smart enough to understand.

Yep... People like Donald just don't get it!

jefftheshark · July 21st, 2009, 07:12 PM

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What a crazy lunatic. He and all his fringe tinfoil hat followers are the real threat to America.

You know who's the crazy tinfoil wearing lunatic? It's you, you lousy hatemongerer!

It's guys like you who disparage a great thinker and warrior poet like Mr. Paul who are at the heart of this country's problems. The sooner you get on-board with the fact that this country needs to be placed squarely on a different track, and not the so-called change that really means business as usual with a different set of faces at the helm, then the better this board, this state and this country are going to be. Why if the internet wasn't such an easy thing to hide behind, well I'd just track you...............................

Oh, what....................really? Your post was sarcasm?

Nevermind.

JTS

Gizmo Williams · July 22nd, 2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by swd1974

One day people will look back, most likely during a real collapse and say hey we need this Ron Paul guy look at everything he said was dead on. But by then Paul will most likely be retired. He gave us a lot of chances to do the right thing but the average american isnt smart enough to understand.

People will probably say that but the reality is that right now he is nothing but the backup quarterback every one wants in the game. If he was elected President...we would probably crucify him to. It is much better to be on the sideline and telling people what to do than actually implementing it.

Unfortunately....much of what Ron Paul talks about is tough to implement in the real world and has some huge drawbacks and pain associated with it. There are definite limitations of the Gold Standard...low growth of GDP, deflation, short term volatility, higher unemployment, potential to game. (If we were on the Gold Standard...you don't think that Goldman Sachs would be figuring out a way to game it.) Also, the changes would not happen overnight nor would he be able to get his plans implemented without being modified to appease Congress, special interest. He is not the Superhero some people make him out to be.

dreamcastrocks · July 22nd, 2009, 08:08 AM

So of what RP said makes sense, and some of it is a complete headscratcher. (which is a big reason why I feel that he doesn't catch on more mainstream) He said to help solve the healthcare crisis, he would give doctors tax breaks? Seriously? If he weren't a doctor, I wouldn't believe it. He wants to the profession that overinflates their prices more than any other I can think of tax breaks. I truly don't trust giving doctors more money and expecting them to pass the savings onto the consumer. Why would they do that?

Linderbee · July 22nd, 2009, 08:26 AM

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Nevermind.

JTS

Thanks, Roseanne Roseannadanna

RugbyMuffin · July 22nd, 2009, 08:27 AM

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I truly don't trust giving doctors more money and expecting them to pass the savings onto the consumer. Why would they do that?

Agreed. Trickle down economics never seem to trickle down. There usually is a clog somewhere, usually the clog is someones pocket.

jefftheshark · July 22nd, 2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Linderbee

Thanks, Roseanne Roseannadanna

Well, Linda, it just goes to show you, it's always somethin'; you either got a toenail in your hamburger or you're being confused with some nutcase named Emily Litella.

Sincerely,

Roseanne Roseannadanna

Duckjake · July 22nd, 2009, 09:11 AM

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Agreed. Trickle down economics never seem to trickle down. There usually is a clog somewhere, usually the clog is someones pocket.

That would mean that somebody had to bury the money in their back yard or keep it in a safe in their house. Otherwise it either gets spent or invested. Either way it gets back into the economy.

Trickle down economics works ok it just wasn't trickling down fast enough for everybody to have a 3500 sf home in a gated community, a Lexus in the driveway, 4 HDTVs, cell phones for the entire family, and ultrahighspeed internet access on the latest and greatest computer.

So everybody borrowed money to get those things. Now we can't borrow and instead of spending have to pay back the loans so there's no more money left to trickle down to anyone.

CaptTurbo · July 22nd, 2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo Williams

People will probably say that but the reality is that right now he is nothing but the backup quarterback every one wants in the game. If he was elected President...we would probably crucify him to. It is much better to be on the sideline and telling people what to do than actually implementing it.

Unfortunately....much of what Ron Paul talks about is tough to implement in the real world and has some huge drawbacks and pain associated with it. There are definite limitations of the Gold Standard...low growth of GDP, deflation, short term volatility, higher unemployment, potential to game. (If we were on the Gold Standard...you don't think that Goldman Sachs would be figuring out a way to game it.) Also, the changes would not happen overnight nor would he be able to get his plans implemented without being modified to appease Congress, special interest. He is not the Superhero some people make him out to be.

Everything you posted Ron Paul has said. Goign to gold is painful but neccessary. You cant "game" the gold standard unless Goldman becomes a mining company.

he also said it cannot be done in a 4 year term. That is why he has the Campaign for Liberty going, to get those people needed in Congress.