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Old June 25th, 2006, 01:09 PM   #1
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Rep. King Seeks Charges Against Papers Over Terror Reporting


Rep. King Seeks Charges Against Papers Over Terror Reporting
Sunday, June 25, 2006
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WASHINGTON — The chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee urged the Bush administration on Sunday to seek criminal charges against newspapers that reported on a secret financial-monitoring program used to trace terrorists.

Rep. Peter King cited The New York Times in particular for publishing a story last week that the Treasury Department was working with the CIA to examine messages within a massive international database of money-transfer records.

King, R-N.Y., said he would write Attorney General Alberto Gonzales urging that the nation's chief law enforcer "begin an investigation and prosecution of The New York Times — the reporters, the editors and the publisher."

"We're at war, and for the Times to release information about secret operations and methods is treasonous," King told The Associated Press.

A message left Sunday with Times spokeswoman Catherine Mathis was not immediately returned.

King's action was not endorsed by the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, GOP Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania.

"On the basis of the newspaper article, I think it's premature to call for a prosecution of the New York Times, just like I think it's premature to say that.


Stories about the money-monitoring program also appeared last week in The Wall Street Journal and Los Angeles Times. King said he thought investigators should examine those publications, but that the greater focus should be on The New York Times because the paper in December also disclosed a secret domestic wiretapping program.

He charged that the paper was "more concerned about a left-wing elitist agenda than it is about the security of the American people."

When the paper chose to publish the story, it quoted the executive editor, Bill Keller, as saying editors had listened closely to the government's arguments for withholding the information, but "remain convinced that the administration's extraordinary access to this vast repository of international financial data, however carefully targeted use of it may be, is a matter of public interest."

After the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Treasury officials obtained access to a vast database called Swift — the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication. The Belgium-based database handles financial message traffic from thousands of financial institutions in more than 200 countries.

Democrats and civil libertarians are questioning whether the program violated privacy rights.

The service, which routes more than 11 million messages each day, mostly captures information on wire transfers and other methods of moving money in and out of the United States, but it does not execute those transfers.

The service generally does not detect private, individual transactions in the United States, such as withdrawals from an ATM or bank deposits. It is aimed mostly at international transfers.

Gonzales said last month that he believes journalists can be prosecuted for publishing classified information, citing an obligation to national security. He also said the government would not hesitate to track telephone calls made by reporters as part of a criminal leak investigation, but officials would not do so routinely and randomly.

In recent months, journalists have been called into court to testify as part of investigations into leaks, including the unauthorized disclosure of a CIA operative's name.

He said the First Amendment right of a free press should not be absolute when it comes to national security.
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Old June 25th, 2006, 05:23 PM   #2
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I guess Rep. King isn't concerned at all with the member(s) of his government who gave the information to those awful, awful newspapers.
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Old June 25th, 2006, 05:26 PM   #3
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Oh trust me, that is being addressed!
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Old June 25th, 2006, 05:33 PM   #4
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I hope so!

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Old June 25th, 2006, 05:44 PM   #5
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If the GOP could just gain control of those naughty non-Fox media outlets they could install a Communist government and rule with an iron fist.

Damn that stupid Constitution.
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Old June 25th, 2006, 05:46 PM   #6
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Before I retired from the Marine Corps, I worked with classified material every day. Below the policy making level, we take our security very seriously. However, once it gets to the policy making level, all bets are off.

I do hope that if there is serious pursuit of charges against the newspapers, that whoever leaked the info to them is hung out to dry.
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Peter King is an idiot...
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Old June 25th, 2006, 10:59 PM   #8
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look, LIAC, this is a WAR we're in.
Freedom of the press has to take a back seat to national security - as defined by our blessed, in touch with the Lord, leaders.
And since this war is permanent, you're going to have to move to another country
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And since this war is permanent, you're going to have to move to another country
That is what I should want anyway? I mean I am a liberal. stupid utlra-right wing media!
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Before I retired from the Marine Corps, I worked with classified material every day. Below the policy making level, we take our security very seriously. However, once it gets to the policy making level, all bets are off.

I do hope that if there is serious pursuit of charges against the newspapers, that whoever leaked the info to them is hung out to dry.
The only way to find out who leaked is to charge the papers and make them furnish their sources.
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The only way to find out who leaked is to charge the papers and make them furnish their sources.
I don't think so.

BTW, is it true that the Wall Street Journal also ran this story?
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I don't think so.

BTW, is it true that the Wall Street Journal also ran this story?
Yep and the LA Times also.
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Yep and the LA Times also.
Doesn't FOX count?
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Doesn't FOX count?

Nope. They didn't run the story until after the other papers broke it.
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Nope. They didn't run the story until after the other papers broke it.
So explain this..only one paper can break a story, yet you named a few. If those others are guilty of wrong doing (your claim) than so is FOX.
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