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Old April 5th, 2004, 06:13 PM   #1
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Real life situation...


My best friend gave me a call today, and gave me some horrible, horrible news.

His girlfriend is pregnant. I immediately asked him if he loved her, and he said no. So then I said, well what are you going to do? He said he didn't know, and I preceeded to give him hell for his promiscuity. I've told him, time and time again, that he shouldn't just sleep with anybody, and that he needed to look for a girl that he really liked. My dad always told me to not sleep with anyone I wouldn't marry. Well it looks like my dad gives pretty good advice like usual.

The big problem is that he wants her to get an abortion (she's three weeks pregnant) but she wants to keep it. She told him that he doesn't have to stay in the picture and that he doesn't have to pay child support. I told him, that personally I'm not really a fan of abortion, and that he should turn and run.

What should he do?
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Old April 5th, 2004, 06:20 PM   #2
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Be a man.

He doesn't have to stay with the girl, but the right thing to do is to be in the child's life either personally, financially, or both.

The girl is saying he won't have to pay support simply so he'll feel like sticking around for her and not due to an obligation to the child.

If he didn't want a kid he should have been more careful.

Now that the kid is definitely on the way, he needs to prepare to be in this kid's life, if not on a personal level...at least financially. It's the right thing to do.
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Old April 5th, 2004, 06:23 PM   #3
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Old April 5th, 2004, 06:24 PM   #4
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Be a man.

He doesn't have to stay with the girl, but the right thing to do is to be in the child's life either personally, financially, or both.

The girl is saying he won't have to pay support simply so he'll feel like sticking around for her and not due to an obligation to the child.

If he didn't want a kid he should have been more careful.

Now that the kid is definitely on the way, he needs to prepare to be in this kid's life, if not on a personal level...at least financially. It's the right thing to do.
I don't disagree. But the situation is even more screwed up.

He's an aspiring artist (guitarist) who isn't father material. And she is a stripper ....I told him not to date her.

Plus she has talked him into not using condoms, and to ejaculate inside of her.

I'm kind of mad at him. He needs to find a good monogamistic relationship, and stay away from skanky chicks like her.
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Old April 5th, 2004, 06:25 PM   #5
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I seldom get involved in the political/religious forum, but this is one moral/ethical topic that I couldnt refrain from replying to.

First of all, I am pro-choice (mainly in cases of rape or incest), however, am against a girl having an abortion more than once (obviously it shouldnt be used as a method of birth-control).

Anyways, I do believe that it's the female's body, therefore it should be soley her decision whether or not to have an abortion. Your friend though was 50% impregnating her, so he should be 50% responsible to help support the baby financially. He should face the consequences, especially because he wouldnt want down the road for "his child" to be traumatized by not having his natural father in the picture....
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Old April 5th, 2004, 06:49 PM   #6
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....Plus she has talked him into not using condoms, and to ejaculate inside of her. ...
nice way to be brought into this world....

That whole thing about the girl saying he doesn't have to stick around....rubbish!

Your friend better take control of this and learn to be a father and an equal financial provider. He doesn't have to live with her much less get married - but he has to learn to still be there to assure his son/daughter will have the best possible chance to succeed.

btw...How sure is he that he's the daddy?

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Old April 5th, 2004, 07:00 PM   #7
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nice way to be brought into this world....

That whole thing about the girl saying he doesn't have to stick around....rubbish!

Your friend better take control of this and learn to be a father and an equal financial provider. He doesn't have to live with her much less get married - but he has to learn to still be there to assure his son will have the best possible chance to succeed.

btw...How sure is he that he's the daddy?
Thats a greet quesdition, one Im not qualafed to anser.

Ugh, this hole sitaution is making e sic...
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Old April 5th, 2004, 07:07 PM   #8
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She should have been using the pill. To "finish" sex like they do without any contraceptive is pretty much the most retarded thing I have ever heard.
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Old April 5th, 2004, 07:07 PM   #9
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Thats a greet quesdition, one Im not qualafed to anser.

Ugh, this hole sitaution is making e sic...
dude - yer gonna get bimmed!

1. verify paternity
2. have your friend get a vesectomy (despite the results of the paternity)
3. tell him to cheer up - and like BIM says "Be a Man" and begin planning both mentally and financially for a life change.


personally......it sounds suspecious...
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Old April 5th, 2004, 11:06 PM   #10
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dude - yer gonna get bimmed!
That was the point.

I'm going to tell my friend that he really has two choices (actually he doesn't have any):

1. Abortion (he doesn't have the choice; his girlfriend does).
2. Take care of the child

I'm against abortion; I would never suggest it to any of my loved ones. But I'm not against others having the choice to do so, and if they make that choice I'll still be his friend.
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Old April 6th, 2004, 12:11 AM   #11
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Thats a greet quesdition, one Im not qualafed to anser.

Ugh, this hole sitaution is making e sic...
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Old April 6th, 2004, 01:40 AM   #12
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The most important human being in this whole situation is the child so he should be in the picture. He should get his act straight. Also you should use a condom with everyone unless you know their sexual background and they get tested. Having sex with a stripper without a condom. That is crazy! I'm not saying she has STD's because she is a stripped but I have a feeling this isn't the first guy she's been with!

Fresno where I am at, I think is one of the worst for children. Almost every girl I talk to has a child and isn't married, some have several! Some lie to me at first just so I'll date them. There are going to be so many kids with no dad where I'm at and it's very sad.
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Old April 6th, 2004, 04:30 AM   #13
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No brainer....abortion.
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Old April 6th, 2004, 06:31 AM   #14
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No brainer....abortion.
How the heck did you come up with that response... He already said she wants to keep the child...

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The big problem is that he wants her to get an abortion (she's three weeks pregnant) but she wants to keep it.
I can tell you guys this much, the part about 'just run'... It does not work that way, at least not in my dealings... My personal feelings are that he needs to be a man and if everything goes okay with the pregnancy and the birth, he needs to be a father to that child - financially, emotionally and mentally... If she finds a someone else to be a father for the mental and emotional portion of the childs life he will still need to bear his financial responsibility to that child.

This is not even really something that he is going to have a choice in... If she says 'run', and that he has 'no obligations' that means absolutely nothing. At any point he can have wages attached and in many cases this is often done late in the childs life after the bill has gotten up into the tens of thousands...

There was a co worker of mine who had a child, actually cared for that child on occasion, bought all of his school supplies and clothing. When this child turned 16 my friend received a notice from the state of California to pay back child support of $21,000... He appeared in court, lost and had his wages attached at the rate of $651 per month, apparently she was getting state benefits for about 10 of those 16 years... He paid this amount until one day he was working out in the field and dropped dead at 45... His current wife and children got a reduced life insurance amount because the state took the remaining balance right off the top...

That is just one of many situation I know like this... Don't trust the 'no obligation' statement, if I am not mistaken even having it in writting means nothing, the only way to not accept the financial responsibility for a child you have brought in is to have the new husband / father actually adopt the child...
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Old April 6th, 2004, 07:11 AM   #15
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No brainer....abortion.

Nice perspective...take the easy way out, that's your motto...

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