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Old April 9th, 2008, 10:46 AM   #31
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I have since found out that Randi was not speaking at an Air America event or on behalf of Air America. Therefore, while one might consider her comments as over the top, she nonetheless should not have been suspended.
So their original premise for suspending her wasn't true or are they lying now trying to cover their tracks when she gets back?


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Air America has suspended on-air host Randi Rhodes for making inappropriate statements about prominent figures, including Senator Hillary Clinton, at a recent public appearance on behalf of Air America in San Francisco which was sponsored by an Air America affiliate station.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 10:51 AM   #32
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So their original premise for suspending her wasn't true or are they lying now trying to cover their tracks when she gets back?
I was wondering the same thing. Something doesn't fit.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 10:54 AM   #33
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I wonder...If I were, say, a tech support person, and I was at a tech support convention that I paid my own way to & was not going to be reimbursed by my company, but I wore my ID badge everywhere, and passed out my business cards to everyone there, and then got on the stage during one of the speeches & used the kind of language & whatnot that Randi used, could my company fire me? Could they legally say they don't want THAT kind of person representing their company? Would I have any rights regarding free speech?

I honestly don't know the answer, and am not trying to slant the question either way; I'm just trying to put this into a "normal person" application, and wonder how our laws work. I tried to make it as good of an analogy as I could; if anyone can think of a better way to word it, feel free.

I would like to think that a company could fire someone for not representing their company in a positive light. I just don't know, though.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 10:58 AM   #34
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I wonder...If I were, say, a tech support person, and I was at a tech support convention that I paid my own way to & was not going to be reimbursed by my company, but I wore my ID badge everywhere, and passed out my business cards to everyone there, and then got on the stage during one of the speeches & used the kind of language & whatnot that Randi used, could my company fire me? Could they legally say they don't want THAT kind of person representing their company? Would I have any rights regarding free speech?

I honestly don't know the answer, and am not trying to slant the question either way; I'm just trying to put this into a "normal person" application, and wonder how our laws work. I tried to make it as good of an analogy as I could; if anyone can think of a better way to word it, feel free.

I would like to think that a company could fire someone for not representing their company in a positive light. I just don't know, though.
I would think the ID and handing out cards would be enough to get you fired. That's identifying your actions with your company. Leave the ID and cards at home and you should be fine.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 11:00 AM   #35
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I would think the ID and handing out cards would be enough to get you fired. That's identifying your actions with your company. Leave the ID and cards at home and you should be fine.
Maybe that is the problem. Folks associate Randi with AA radio whether she hands out cards or not.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 11:04 AM   #36
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Each day, and with each 'suspension', 'firing', or 'resignation' of anyone for saying anything opinion or otherwise, we are becoming less and less American.
Hmmm. Was Rhodes suspended by the government? Was she arrested for breaking any laws?

Rhodes, or anyone else, is free to say what they want w/out the government getting involved, but that doesn't mean their won't be consequences.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 11:05 AM   #37
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Maybe that is the problem. Folks associate Randi with AA radio whether she hands out cards or not.
NFL players have terms of conduct in their contracts so I would think radio and tv personalities would too. Seems someone in that positions business card is their face and voice. Still can't find anything that says it wasn't an AA appearance though.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 11:06 AM   #38
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Maybe that is the problem. Folks associate Randi with AA radio whether she hands out cards or not.
Exactly my point.

I still don't know the answer, though. Could she maybe even have it in her employment contract that when at any function she is still considered a "representative" of AA & must conduct herself accordingly?

edit: AZCards21 beat me to it!
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Hmmm. Was Rhodes suspended by the government? Was she arrested for breaking any laws?

Rhodes, or anyone else, is free to say what they want w/out the government getting involved, but that doesn't mean their won't be consequences.
Yep. Corpo-weasels use this concept quite effectively to keep us under control.
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Yep. Corpo-weasels use this concept quite effectively to keep us under control.
So if Rivercard owned a company and one of his employees was going around publicly embarrassing his company and costing him business, his only reaction would be, "Hey, it's a free country"?
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So if Rivercard owned a company and one of his employees was going around publicly embarrassing his company and costing him business, his only reaction would be, "Hey, it's a free country"?
For the most part. Depends on the situation I guess. But as far as I know Randi's controversial statements were not about her employer or her business, and apparently this was not an AA event. Throw out the cuss words, and What Randi said wasn't that far removed from her everyday radio show. If my business was talk radio and she were on my team I don't think I would suspend her for these remark.

Do you think Randi's remarks are costing AA Radio business?

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I was listening to AA yesterday and they were saying that it wasn't an AA sponsored event and she wasn't there representing the company.

I'll assume that is the truth, though I have no way of knowing for sure.....
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Old April 9th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #43
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I was listening to AA yesterday and they were saying that it wasn't an AA sponsored event and she wasn't there representing the company.

I'll assume that is the truth, though I have no way of knowing for sure.....
So is she back on?
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Don't know. Supposedly, it's indefinite.
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My ex is a DJ and has worked for several stations all over the NW and is now in L.A., I remember in her contracts it stipulating that her off air public behavior could lead to suspension or terminating her contract because she is expected to be representing the station 24/7. She is promoted as a product, a representitive of the company.
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