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When you die you soul goes to heaven or hell right? Assuming you were a good christian do you show up to heaven exactly as you were alive before you died? If I die at 80 am I 80 in heaven or do I get to be in my 20s again? I'm assuming some kid that dies at 16 can't be 30 because he hasn't had the life experiences that lead to that. Does the bible say anything about what happens to your soul when you move on?
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I don't think it says anything...I think we'll all be the same...there is no age in heaven since there is no time...we'll all know what we need to know...
Interesting questions, but not sure anyone can really answer them. I just can't wait to find out someday.
I would assume that we would have no corporality. It would be more of an esse I would assume - an ethereal apparition with no distinct featuristics.
The familiarity one would have with anther "soul" would be from recognizing the peculiarness and individualistic assemblies that one had acquired though this transversation that we call "life."
It's either this or we all take the form of what we want to look like. I call dibs on Darth Vader.
I would assume that we would have no corporality. It would be more of an esse I would assume - an ethereal apparition with no distinct featuristics.
The familiarity one would have with anther "soul" would be from recognizing the peculiarness and individualistic assemblies that one had acquired though this transversation that we call "life."
It's either this or we all take the form of what we want to look like. I call dibs on Darth Vader.
When you die you soul goes to heaven or hell right? Assuming you were a good christian do you show up to heaven exactly as you were alive before you died? If I die at 80 am I 80 in heaven or do I get to be in my 20s again? I'm assuming some kid that dies at 16 can't be 30 because he hasn't had the life experiences that lead to that. Does the bible say anything about what happens to your soul when you move on?
Don't know. But I hope I have a better looking face.
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Do you still have your thoughts and personallity and can interact with others? If not what's the point. How much of "you" passes on?
I think all of us. When the apostles saw Jesus in a glorified body on the mount of transfiguration they could recognize Jesus, as well as Moses and Elijah. So, I would think that you are recognizeable and the person you are (the redeemed nature not the sinful nature) will be present.
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Luke 9:28-36 The Transfiguration
28About eight days after Jesus said this, he took Peter, John and James with him and went up onto a mountain to pray. 29As he was praying, the appearance of his face changed, and his clothes became as bright as a flash of lightning. 30Two men, Moses and Elijah, 31appeared in glorious splendor, talking with Jesus. They spoke about his departure, which he was about to bring to fulfillment at Jerusalem. 32Peter and his companions were very sleepy, but when they became fully awake, they saw his glory and the two men standing with him. 33As the men were leaving Jesus, Peter said to him, "Master, it is good for us to be here. Let us put up three shelters--one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah." (He did not know what he was saying.)
34While he was speaking, a cloud appeared and enveloped them, and they were afraid as they entered the cloud. 35A voice came from the cloud, saying, "This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him." 36When the voice had spoken, they found that Jesus was alone. The disciples kept this to themselves, and told no one at that time what they had seen.
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When you die you soul goes to heaven or hell right? Assuming you were a good christian do you show up to heaven exactly as you were alive before you died? If I die at 80 am I 80 in heaven or do I get to be in my 20s again? I'm assuming some kid that dies at 16 can't be 30 because he hasn't had the life experiences that lead to that. Does the bible say anything about what happens to your soul when you move on?
Good question!
It is a question that I have pondered many times myself. jfk296's response makes some sense (right up to the Darth Vader part ). I imagine that we will be "recognized by our relationship to another; i.e. - someone we knew in school may "see us" as we were at that time of our life, whereas someone who knew us only later in life will "see us" at that stage of life.
To my knowledge this aspect of eternity is not defined in the Bible.
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Soul or Spirit or Mind is different from Brain or the "physicalness" of us. Some even call it our Conscousness. I think on some level all these terms are interchangeable.
Dr. J. P. Moreland gives a very simple definition of this when he states that "consciousness is what you're aware of when you introspect. When you pay attention to what's going on inside of you...in short, it consists of sensations, thoughts, emotions, desires, beliefs, and free choices that make us alive and aware." I would also mix in "memories" as being a part of that definition.
One way to describe the distinction from a scientific standpoint is that a scientist could know more about what's happening in my brain than I do, but he couldn't know more about what's happening in my mind than I do. He has to ask me in order to find that out. There has been quite a bit of focused scientific study in this area in the last few recent years with several books and papers being published on this topic.
According to scripture there is evidence that we retain our thoughts, our memories, our consciousness. What makes us us is not our physical being but rather our consciousness. I'd go so far as to say that - from a philosophical standpoint - we've never seen another person - ever.
Example: My soul and consciousness are invisible even though my body is visible. If someone loses an arm during an accident do they become less a person? If someone undergoes brain surgery and has to have a piece of their brian removed do they become less of a person? In both instances - No. The loss of the physical does not equate the loss of soul or consciousness. Losing a part of my physical body isn't going to change my thoughts or beliefs or memories, etc., therefore it must be distinctive from my physical body. Even take near-death out-of-body experiences. People have memories and thoughts of events taking place while clinically dead and then brought back. There is no break or loss of consciousness - even in those who were declared brain dead and brought back. There is much scientific research to verify it as well.
Back to what scripture has to say - it appears from scripture that we do retain those thoughts and memories and we are not only cognizant but conscious of our "relationship" to other souls. We cannot say our "location" or "proximity" to other souls because the soul is not physical and you can't have location without physicality, so when we are stripped down to our bare soul all we can achieve is relationship - from the best that I can tell. Therefore, when our body dies our soul attains some relationship with God whether that is in His "presence" or out of it. Only after we are re-united with our bodies at the resurrection will be attain our perfect state of relationship and location near to God while those who do not believe will out of relationship and reside in existence away from God.
Shawn
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