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nidan · November 24th, 2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LVG

The problem is that the construction industry, unlike most others, is inherently dangerous. You're dealing with an ever changing jobsite, where failure to be aware of your surroundings can get you and your buddies seriously hurt or killed.

I'm all for MM - but like I said, if I ever found someone (and I have) on my site who'se high, they're thrown off site that instant.

My one concern is that I hire someone who has a prescription for MM, and one day he's really in pain, but can't afford to take the day off. So, he shows up to work, finds a nice quiet place, lights up, then tries to go do something before someone catches him - and gets himself hurt or killed in the process; or worse, hurts or kills someone else.

And I do hire based on who can do the best job. One of my best scraper operators that I've ever worked with had 1 arm - but man could he drive iron. But I'll be damned if I'm going to hire someone that could put someone else in jeopardy.

Regardless, I really don't see a stampede of people with prescriptions for either pain killers or MM applying for construction jobs - the work is generally too strenuous. If someone has really bad back pain, they're not going to spend 8 hours a day slinging mud, framing, wiring, hanging drywall, etc.

Same as drinking on the job

LVG · November 25th, 2010, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nidan

Same as drinking on the job

I'm not sure about that, nidan. People don't have prescriptions to take a shot of Jack Daniels, as far as I know. However, there may be legal protections afforded to those who have MM prescriptions. If those who have a prescription for MM do have legal prescriptions, and let's say they do have to use during the work day, does that mean I have to restrict them to light duty (sitting at a desk)?

Can I fire them? Or by doing so, will I get sued?

The devil is in the details - I'd have to see how the law is applied by the courts.

I'm not against MM at all, OTOH, I have a job to do and a project to complete, which I have to do as safely and as quick as possible. A person who used MM on the site would clearly present an unsafe condition.

nidan · November 26th, 2010, 08:40 AM

What I meant was that for most jobs, being impaired on the job is the issue regardless of the cause of the impairment

crisper57 · November 29th, 2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LVG

I'm not sure about that, nidan. People don't have prescriptions to take a shot of Jack Daniels, as far as I know. However, there may be legal protections afforded to those who have MM prescriptions. If those who have a prescription for MM do have legal prescriptions, and let's say they do have to use during the work day, does that mean I have to restrict them to light duty (sitting at a desk)?

Can I fire them? Or by doing so, will I get sued?

The devil is in the details - I'd have to see how the law is applied by the courts.

I'm not against MM at all, OTOH, I have a job to do and a project to complete, which I have to do as safely and as quick as possible. A person who used MM on the site would clearly present an unsafe condition.

The actual language states that a cardholder cannot be fired for the result of a positive drug test for marijuana. It also says that this protection does not extend to MJM cardholders using on the job. So even if they are a cardholder, they still have no right to light up at their place of work.

LVG · November 29th, 2010, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crisper57

The actual language states that a cardholder cannot be fired for the result of a positive drug test for marijuana. It also says that this protection does not extend to MJM cardholders using on the job. So even if they are a cardholder, they still have no right to light up at their place of work.

Good info. Thanks.

justAndy · December 1st, 2010, 12:01 PM

Meh - overall quality will go up on the street, but pricing won't change on the street.
Card holders will probably get 1/3 off of street pricing.

BigRedRage · December 3rd, 2010, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian

Go eat some Doritos and Ramen dumbass. Hop on your skateboard and call all your friends "dude".

Dude.

People like you make me sick, trashing on people because they enjoy smoking pot. Who gives a ****? Do you hate everyone who drinks or smokes cigarettes? How about everyone who eats fast food? mind your own ****ing business and dont worry about if I smoke pot in my garage at night or not, it has no affect on you and nothing to do with you.

**** yes im going to use chronic pain to get pot, who cares? Now I can no longer be imprisoned and lose my children because I smoke a bowl one night.

I know people who get off work, get hammered and swerve home every night, focus your hate on that stuff not responcible pot smokers in their bedrooms.