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June 23rd, 2006, 05:04 PM
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potential get-away driver: go!
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Originally Posted by krepitch
You conservatives are so impatient.
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you liberals are fast at all the wrong times...
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I'll try to be more observant from now on. - dogpoo32
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June 23rd, 2006, 05:06 PM
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#77
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Moderator
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Originally Posted by jenna2891
you liberals are fast at all the wrong times...
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June 23rd, 2006, 05:48 PM
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#78
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I want my 2$
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Originally Posted by DevonCardsFan
Also I may add, How much more access and how much more inside information do we have on the Cardinals due to this very uninformative Internet?? I mean the Internet doesn't have alot of information on it or anything.
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Dude in all seriousness, it's got to be a young phase thing.
Stop reading the internet at all costs, go out and enjoy yourself, there's nothing the conspiracists would like more than to see you staring at your computer screen in terror.
There is no giant conspiracy that's going to work, we can't even keep secrets secret, no one is pulling the master strings, at least if they are they end up tripping on them eventually.
And remember this iron clad bit of logic, if some secret society was really controlling the world, you wouldn't hear about it period.
No internet rumors, no websites, nothing, you wouldn't know, which is proof this other stuff isn't succeeding as much as you are afraid it is.
No worries.
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At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.
~Abraham Lincoln Lyceum Address
Last edited by conraddobler; June 23rd, 2006 at 05:50 PM.
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June 23rd, 2006, 07:33 PM
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#79
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Answers Before Questions
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Originally Posted by 40yearfan
If we ever have another attack in New York, the only safe place to be will be the NY Times building. The terrorists wouldn't attack one of their allies.
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June 23rd, 2006, 08:44 PM
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#80
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I see you.
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Originally Posted by conraddobler
There is no giant conspiracy that's going to work, we can't even keep secrets secret, no one is pulling the master strings, at least if they are they end up tripping on them eventually.
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 That's awesome! I'd have liked to have typed that myself.
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We live in a world which is full of misery and ignorance, and the plain duty of each and all of us is to try to make the little corner he can influence somewhat less miserable and somewhat less ignorant than it was before he entered it.
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June 23rd, 2006, 11:07 PM
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#81
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Keep ya' pimp hand tight
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Originally Posted by 82CardsGrad
But if not interviewed by Fox - perhaps CNN say, you would say something different??? That seems strange to me... Does Fox actually tell soldiers what to say??
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No I would say the same thing no matter WHO was interviewing me. But Fox takes those clips and uses them of evidence that things are going well.
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Originally Posted by 82CardsGrad
And, if you were not being interviewed at all, but just candidly speaking your mind, would you then sound like John Kerry after he did his speed tour of Nam??
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Nam was wrong. So once I took the uniform off, I would speak my mind. John
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Originally Posted by 82CardsGrad
I wonder what our boys were thinking when battling the Red Coats. Or as they were scaling the cliffs of Normandy, were they thinking, "Why the FVCK am I here, defending the French of all people?"?
This is exactly what the bad guys want to hear from us... They are licking their chops, just waiting for us to lose our will, to give up and run...
Amazing...
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Why is reporting the truth so bad? That's what infuriates me so much about the right side. As a soldier I defend your freedom of speech and the freedom of the press. It is my sacred duty, and DAMN IT USE IT!
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June 23rd, 2006, 11:17 PM
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#82
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Keep ya' pimp hand tight
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Originally Posted by 82CardsGrad
And, if you were not being interviewed at all, but just candidly speaking your mind, would you then sound like John Kerry after he did his speed tour of Nam??
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And btw, John Kerry didn't do a speed tour of Nam. That a load of horseshit to say that. He did two tours there, or approximately 3 years. Most soldiers didn't volunteer to go back; John Kerry did.
And he was highly decorated. To call his military service into question is a low blow. The man served his frigging country in war and doesn't even get any credit from you people, while Bush drank himself into a stupor "serving" in the Texas air national guard.
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June 23rd, 2006, 11:40 PM
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#83
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I want my 2$
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Originally Posted by Krangthebrain
And btw, John Kerry didn't do a speed tour of Nam. That a load of horseshit to say that. He did two tours there, or approximately 3 years. Most soldiers didn't volunteer to go back; John Kerry did.
And he was highly decorated. To call his military service into question is a low blow. The man served his frigging country in war and doesn't even get any credit from you people, while Bush drank himself into a stupor "serving" in the Texas air national guard.
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A political masterpiece.
Karl Rovian creation of epic proportions, genius pure genius.
I can see the beer and pizza spitting out all over the room, "we're going to attack his military service?"
HAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAH,........ "Man, I think he meant that" bwwahalhwhaahhah.
I'm no John Kerry fan, voted for him to fire Bush, he was acceptable to me for that role.
However, that was an amazingly sad statement of our polarized politics that got the righties to swallow that entire mess, to McCain's credit he asked them to cut it out.
I respect him for that, more people left and right need to tell their own bunches to knock stuff off, just like the left's booing Hillary, let them have it don't all bunch up in one pickle barrell, act like you've got a brain and use it.
Democrats aren't evil, Republicans aren't either, don't pigeon hole your vote or your just an automated atm puncher they can always count on, spread it out a bit, make em work for it, don't give it away for free, they are USING YOU!
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At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.
~Abraham Lincoln Lyceum Address
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June 24th, 2006, 01:17 AM
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What is most important to you?
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Originally Posted by Krangthebrain
And btw, John Kerry didn't do a speed tour of Nam. That a load of horseshit to say that. He did two tours there, or approximately 3 years. Most soldiers didn't volunteer to go back; John Kerry did.
And he was highly decorated. To call his military service into question is a low blow. The man served his frigging country in war and doesn't even get any credit from you people, while Bush drank himself into a stupor "serving" in the Texas air national guard.
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Kerry's an embarrassment - period... Why did he go t Nam?? Not because he wanted to fight for what he believed in... Not because he felt it was his duty, but because he wanted to follow in the footsteps of his idol, JFK... Even his diatraube on the hill upon his return, when he compared our troops the Ghengis Kahn, he attempted to use an accent that was supposed to be JFK-like - he failed of course...
How can you possibly defend this scum?? Here's an example of just how devious, just how thin and how insincere he really is... Here is a caption from a speech he made on 12/3/03 to the Council on Foriegn Relations... Keep in mind what this scumbag was just pushing for this past week on the Senate floor:
Making America Secure Again: Setting the Right Course for Foreign Policy
Author: John F. Kerry
December 3, 2003
Council on Foreign Relations
"In fact, I fear that in the run-up to the 2004 election, the administration is considering what is tantamount to a cut-and-run strategy. Their sudden embrace of accelerated Iraqification and American troop withdrawal dates, without adequate stability, is an invitation to failure. The hard work of rebuilding Iraq must not be dictated by the schedule of the next American election.
I have called for the administration to transfer sovereignty, and they must transfer it to the Iraqi people as quickly as circumstances permit. But it would be a disaster and a disgraceful betrayal of principle to speed up the process simply to lay the groundwork for a politically expedient withdrawal of American troops. That could risk the hijacking of Iraq by terrorist groups and former Ba'athists. Security and political stability cannot be divorced. Security must come first, and that is why it is so imperative to succeed in building a genuine coalition on the ground in Iraq."
Dude - you need to be much more careful about where you place your support... Kerry is a complete crumb...
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June 24th, 2006, 05:25 AM
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Keep ya' pimp hand tight
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Originally Posted by 82CardsGrad
Kerry's an embarrassment - period... Why did he go t Nam?? Not because he wanted to fight for what he believed in... Not because he felt it was his duty, but because he wanted to follow in the footsteps of his idol, JFK... Even his diatraube on the hill upon his return, when he compared our troops the Ghengis Kahn, he attempted to use an accent that was supposed to be JFK-like - he failed of course...
How can you possibly defend this scum?? Here's an example of just how devious, just how thin and how insincere he really is... Here is a caption from a speech he made on 12/3/03 to the Council on Foriegn Relations... Keep in mind what this scumbag was just pushing for this past week on the Senate floor:
Making America Secure Again: Setting the Right Course for Foreign Policy
Author: John F. Kerry
December 3, 2003
Council on Foreign Relations
"In fact, I fear that in the run-up to the 2004 election, the administration is considering what is tantamount to a cut-and-run strategy. Their sudden embrace of accelerated Iraqification and American troop withdrawal dates, without adequate stability, is an invitation to failure. The hard work of rebuilding Iraq must not be dictated by the schedule of the next American election.
I have called for the administration to transfer sovereignty, and they must transfer it to the Iraqi people as quickly as circumstances permit. But it would be a disaster and a disgraceful betrayal of principle to speed up the process simply to lay the groundwork for a politically expedient withdrawal of American troops. That could risk the hijacking of Iraq by terrorist groups and former Ba'athists. Security and political stability cannot be divorced. Security must come first, and that is why it is so imperative to succeed in building a genuine coalition on the ground in Iraq."
Dude - you need to be much more careful about where you place your support... Kerry is a complete crumb...
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No dude, you need to bring an arguement that actually has some merit to it.
Saying that Kerry joined the Navy just because JFK did is absolute hogwash. It was a contributing factor as Kennedy was a childhood idol, but his father also served as well. Kids emulate their idols, and in Kerry's case that was his father and a President that he is related to and admired. And the comment about his "diatraube" [sic] on the hill is purely speculative.
And what's wrong with this quote from Kerry? I just don't get it. Kerry only wants a withdrawal once things stabilize, which frankly, isn't that much different than what the Republicans are saying. That's why Kerry didn't win; most people viewed him as weak willed (a Karl Rove success) and lacking a vision that was any different than Bush's. He basically offered nothing different so people wanted to stay with what they already knew (Bush).
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June 24th, 2006, 08:19 AM
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Answers Before Questions
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Originally Posted by 82CardsGrad
Kerry's an embarrassment - period... Why did he go t Nam?? Not because he wanted to fight for what he believed in... Not because he felt it was his duty, but because he wanted to follow in the footsteps of his idol, JFK... Even his diatraube on the hill upon his return, when he compared our troops the Ghengis Kahn, he attempted to use an accent that was supposed to be JFK-like - he failed of course...
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And I am sure you have served in the millitary right and went to war right? Even if that were his motivation, he was still there for 3 Years while your president was busy getting drunk, snorting coke, and evading his service in the silver spoon laden Champaign Division. Its funny how a bunch of real cowards who never served find it so easy to try and disgrace and insult real war veterans.
You want to talk about scumbag, maybe you should check the mirror first...
Also, do you have any original though with actually something to say or do you have a Republican manual on you computer ready to cut and paste standard answers with not substance?
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June 24th, 2006, 08:26 AM
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What is most important to you?
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Originally Posted by Krangthebrain
No dude, you need to bring an arguement that actually has some merit to it.
Saying that Kerry joined the Navy just because JFK did is absolute hogwash. It was a contributing factor as Kennedy was a childhood idol, but his father also served as well. Kids emulate their idols, and in Kerry's case that was his father and a President that he is related to and admired. And the comment about his "diatraube" [sic] on the hill is purely speculative.
And what's wrong with this quote from Kerry? I just don't get it. Kerry only wants a withdrawal once things stabilize, which frankly, isn't that much different than what the Republicans are saying. That's why Kerry didn't win; most people viewed him as weak willed (a Karl Rove success) and lacking a vision that was any different than Bush's. He basically offered nothing different so people wanted to stay with what they already knew (Bush).
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If you can't see the irony in this statement, when considering what he just tried to do this past week, you are indeed a blind man...
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June 24th, 2006, 09:24 AM
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Pimping Freedom Ain't Easy
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Originally Posted by 82CardsGrad
If you can't see the irony in this statement, when considering what he just tried to do this past week, you are indeed a blind man...
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So our little war monger friend, what is your service record? How many wars have you fought in?
Your act is old, you have nothing, maybe you better turn on FOX and update your rhetoric.
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June 24th, 2006, 09:53 AM
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What is most important to you?
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Originally Posted by KloD
So our little war monger friend, what is your service record? How many wars have you fought in?
Your act is old, you have nothing, maybe you better turn on FOX and update your rhetoric.
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When are you going to come up with different, more creative slurs?? Talk about a tired old act...
So in order to support a war, you must have previously fought in a war? Hey, you liberal doves just mught be onto a new anti-war campaign there!!
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June 24th, 2006, 09:53 AM
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Random Encounter
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Doubt on US terror plotters
THE plot sounded menacing: a group of home-grown terrorists with sinister codenames seeking help from Al-Qaeda to attack America's tallest building, the 103-storey Sears Tower in Chicago.
But as more details emerge of a supposed terror plot interrupted by US authorities, the plotters and their half-baked plan seem less than deadly, and more than a little ridiculous.
The seven alleged plotters were mostly unemployed men from a poor suburb of Miami who had no weapons, explosives or money.
They were so disorganised that they asked their "Al-Qaeda" contact for uniforms and boots for their "Islamic army", as well as a camera to take pictures of their target.
A man the plotters thought was an Al-Qaeda representative turned out to be an undercover agent who gave them limited assistance: he took their shoe sizes and provided them with boots, but failed to provide other items allegedly requested by the suspects: guns, vehicles, $A70,000 cash and bulletproof vests.
Relatives of the men described them as harmless and as far as they knew, not even Islamic.
But an indictment released by the US Attorney General, Albert Gonzales, said the men had sworn an oath of allegiance to Al-Qaeda and ringleader Narseal Batiste and had promised to wage "a full ground war" against the United States to "kill all the devils we can," in a mission that would "be just as good or greater than 9/11."
The plotters also wanted to attack FBI buildings in Miami, the indictment said.
Neighbours of the plotters in an area of Miami called Liberty City described the men as a militaristic group in their teens and 20s, but one that did not seem particularly threatening.
One neighbour said they seemed "brainwashed."
"They would come out late at night and exercise," said Tashawn Rose, 29.
"It seemed like a military boot camp that they were working on there. They would come out and stand guard."
The indictment said the men used such codenames as "Brother Naz" and "Brother Sunni."
Security at Sears Tower was already tight after previous bomb threats, and life at the building continued unchanged yesterday.
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