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Old June 23rd, 2006, 02:11 PM   #31
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Sears Tower Arrests: US Government Creates Another Al-Qaeda Cell
Entrapment method used again to frighten Americans into submission

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 23 2006

Hot on the heels of a rash of staged terror alerts in both Britain and Canada, the announcement that seven men were arrested for planning to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago and other prominent buildings is already taking the shape of another US government manufactured Al-Qaeda punch and judy show.

As is usually the case, the alleged ringleader Nassir Batiste's family and friends are aghast that he could have any terrorist connections and uniformly deny the plausibility of and Al-Qaeda connection, describing him as a simple construction worker and a "nice guy." Here are some excerpts from a CNN piece which you can view below.

ARIANE WEBSTER, SUSPECT'S GRANDMOTHER: I'm -- truly down in my heart I believe that's a stone lie. I been knowing Nassir (ph) better than five years. I never know him to get in any trouble. I never know him to have any problem with anybody. I always know him, he taught my son how to do karate. I have a son that is 18 years old. When he first met my son, my son was only about ...

ANDREWS (reporter) : So you don't think he's a terrorist, as the government's alleging?

WEBSTER: No, I don't. I really don't believe that.

MASTER G.H.G. ATHEA, SUSPECT'S FRIEND: Someone along the line offered to him some funds to do whatever he wanted to do if that's what he wanted to do. As far as some subversive work. And said they would give him whatever he needed.



ANDREWS: So somebody had approached him to give him money to blow up buildings?

ATHEA: To do whatever he wanted to do. But that was far from his mind. So he had no desire to interact with these men to accept anything they had to offer.

ANDREWS: So bottom line here, is your friend a terrorist?

ATHEA: No, he's not. Absolutely not.

The key comment here is from the suspects friend. It clearly looks as if the "someone" who tried to bend his ear and convince him to join Al-Qaeda was acting on behalf of the US government and running an entrapment sting.

Entrapment is the primary method used to expose supposed Al-Qaeda cells, the evidence of which they were dangerous terrorists later dissolves into thin air in every single instance. It was used in the Canadian scare earlier this month and also recently in the Toledo arrests.

Attorney General Gonzales said that "the individual they thought was a member of al-Qaida was present at their meetings and in actuality he was working with the South Florida Joint Terrorism Task Force."

This is classic entrapment and the artificial manufacture of an Al-Qaeda boogeyman to wave in front of the American people.

Batiste was most likely told that he was part of an anti-terror drill to test the security of Chicago landmarks and that he had to recruit a mock group of followers. Either that or he was a hand-picked idiot who had severe mental deficiencies and couldn't spot and obvious set-up.



One of the repeating elements to emerge from every major terror sting or forged terror alert is the use of retarded individuals as patsies, informants and go-betweens. The terror raid in Forest Gate three weeks ago in which an innocent man was shot by the police was conducted on the whim of information provided by a man with an IQ of just 69.

Similarly, it was reported today that the informant who sparked interest in alleged Ottawa terrorist Mohamed Harkat was "certifiably insane."

The group used by the FBI to bomb the World Trade Center in 1993 were also clinically retarded. It's easier to frame people who lack any credibility and don't have any means to eloquently defend themselves.

Don't be surprised to learn of a connection to a retarded individual over the next few days.

We shouldn't be lapse in our understanding that the Sears Tower is indeed the target of deranged terrorist masters who want to destroy America. Internet speculation that the landmark would be attacked on April 19, 2004 was rubbished by many and yet a derailing of the plot was quietly announced that very day yet given no play in the establishment media.

In March 2004, Silverstein Properties bought the tower in an $800 million deal. Larry Silverstein's penchant for large insurance pay outs, coupled with the strange coincidence of buildings only owned by him collapsing on 9/11, makes for a dangerous combination.

The Sears Tower is indeed under threat - not from government created patsies, but the elite itself.
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Old June 23rd, 2006, 02:14 PM   #32
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Krang, being in the job you are in, you think it's OK for the press to publish all our secrets? Isn't this going to eventually effect how you do your job? When does security override the people's right to know? How can you and others do your jobs if the bad guys know exactly what you are doing?

You are the last person I thought would be in favor of this.
You think the Press can actually access "secrets" (what we call in the intelligence world: classified, secret compartmentalized information, top secret, gamma, etc.)?

NO NO NO NO!

Most people in the intelligence community can't access a lot of the classified information out there. Sometimes the press DOES release information that shouldn't be released, but that isn't the press' fault. That fault falls on the soldier who was stupid enough, or better yet, derelict in their duties.
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Old June 23rd, 2006, 02:24 PM   #33
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Sears Tower Arrests: US Government Creates Another Al-Qaeda Cell
Entrapment method used again to frighten Americans into submission

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 23 2006

Hot on the heels of a rash of staged terror alerts in both Britain and Canada, the announcement that seven men were arrested for planning to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago and other prominent buildings is already taking the shape of another US government manufactured Al-Qaeda punch and judy show.

As is usually the case, the alleged ringleader Nassir Batiste's family and friends are aghast that he could have any terrorist connections and uniformly deny the plausibility of and Al-Qaeda connection, describing him as a simple construction worker and a "nice guy." Here are some excerpts from a CNN piece which you can view below.

ARIANE WEBSTER, SUSPECT'S GRANDMOTHER: I'm -- truly down in my heart I believe that's a stone lie. I been knowing Nassir (ph) better than five years. I never know him to get in any trouble. I never know him to have any problem with anybody. I always know him, he taught my son how to do karate. I have a son that is 18 years old. When he first met my son, my son was only about ...

ANDREWS (reporter) : So you don't think he's a terrorist, as the government's alleging?

WEBSTER: No, I don't. I really don't believe that.

MASTER G.H.G. ATHEA, SUSPECT'S FRIEND: Someone along the line offered to him some funds to do whatever he wanted to do if that's what he wanted to do. As far as some subversive work. And said they would give him whatever he needed.



ANDREWS: So somebody had approached him to give him money to blow up buildings?

ATHEA: To do whatever he wanted to do. But that was far from his mind. So he had no desire to interact with these men to accept anything they had to offer.

ANDREWS: So bottom line here, is your friend a terrorist?

ATHEA: No, he's not. Absolutely not.

The key comment here is from the suspects friend. It clearly looks as if the "someone" who tried to bend his ear and convince him to join Al-Qaeda was acting on behalf of the US government and running an entrapment sting.

Entrapment is the primary method used to expose supposed Al-Qaeda cells, the evidence of which they were dangerous terrorists later dissolves into thin air in every single instance. It was used in the Canadian scare earlier this month and also recently in the Toledo arrests.

Attorney General Gonzales said that "the individual they thought was a member of al-Qaida was present at their meetings and in actuality he was working with the South Florida Joint Terrorism Task Force."

This is classic entrapment and the artificial manufacture of an Al-Qaeda boogeyman to wave in front of the American people.

Batiste was most likely told that he was part of an anti-terror drill to test the security of Chicago landmarks and that he had to recruit a mock group of followers. Either that or he was a hand-picked idiot who had severe mental deficiencies and couldn't spot and obvious set-up.



One of the repeating elements to emerge from every major terror sting or forged terror alert is the use of retarded individuals as patsies, informants and go-betweens. The terror raid in Forest Gate three weeks ago in which an innocent man was shot by the police was conducted on the whim of information provided by a man with an IQ of just 69.

Similarly, it was reported today that the informant who sparked interest in alleged Ottawa terrorist Mohamed Harkat was "certifiably insane."

The group used by the FBI to bomb the World Trade Center in 1993 were also clinically retarded. It's easier to frame people who lack any credibility and don't have any means to eloquently defend themselves.

Don't be surprised to learn of a connection to a retarded individual over the next few days.

We shouldn't be lapse in our understanding that the Sears Tower is indeed the target of deranged terrorist masters who want to destroy America. Internet speculation that the landmark would be attacked on April 19, 2004 was rubbished by many and yet a derailing of the plot was quietly announced that very day yet given no play in the establishment media.

In March 2004, Silverstein Properties bought the tower in an $800 million deal. Larry Silverstein's penchant for large insurance pay outs, coupled with the strange coincidence of buildings only owned by him collapsing on 9/11, makes for a dangerous combination.

The Sears Tower is indeed under threat - not from government created patsies, but the elite itself.


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Old June 23rd, 2006, 02:26 PM   #34
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Maybe you outta, I dont know, open your eyes and read the forums a bit more. Look at anything that has happened that was positive (not much I know) and read the threads.
Swd I work with soldiers for a living like you did in the past.

And what I constantly hear from guys coming back from Iraq is that they don't think the mission will be achieved. Most believe that we are wasting time there, which is what the liberals on this board are saying from what I've read.

My neighbor just got back from Baquoba (sp?) where Zarqawi was caught. He didn't think it was a big deal; another guy will just replace him and this just upped recruiting. My neighbor has been hit with 3 IEDs and took three rounds to the chest (his IBA saved his life, though he fell down 3 flights of stairs and broke his tailbone).

There is very little positive coming out of the Iraq war. When ever you hear from soldier's in the front they are spewing the Army propaganda we are all taught to say (I'm obviously being frank here, I shouldn't be saying this). If I were interviewed by Fox in Iraq, I would say that we were well on our way to achieving our mission and that everything was great in Iraq. We're all taught to say those things...
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The Last laugh will be on you guys!! Trust me, Ive done my research have you?? You are part of the system anyway, do you feel it is just
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ARIANE WEBSTER, SUSPECT'S GRANDMOTHER: I'm -- truly down in my heart I believe that's a stone lie. ...
ANDREWS (reporter) : So you don't think he's a terrorist, as the government's alleging?

WEBSTER: No, I don't. I really don't believe that.
Damnit, if his grandma doesn't think he's guilty, well, that's good enough for me!

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You've done your "research?" What have you done outside of reading articles on the internet?
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To be fair, what proof do you have that proves this info is wrong?
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Devon...hold on...can't hear you with my tinfoil hat on....say again??
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To be fair, what proof do you have that proves this info is wrong?
I never said he was wrong. I just doubt he did any "research."
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That is not fair. Seriously.
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Oh that's what that is, I was wondering why you were sitting in the corner with a dunce hat on.
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Faith in God, baseball and American Apple Pie.

I would venture to guestimate that most people living in South Florida don't believe this is anything but the result of a setup sting on some unwitting semi literate dupes. This attitude is getting quite a bit of play down here.

I have warned most people on here, living in South Florida is almost like living in the United States.

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