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Old February 22nd, 2006, 09:00 AM   #1
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Why is this even an issue... I swear people have to bring stuff into all sorts of areas that it does not belong... The reason behind a game is escape, doing something that does not involve the problems of the real world... Good lord the last thing I want to see is any more political debate in the game, for crying out loud... That is what ASFN's P&R boards are for, when will the rest of society realize this?

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'World of Warcraft' copes with gay rights fallout

Popular online game reviewing policies after backlash to warning

Updated: 7:52 p.m. ET Feb. 15, 2006

SAN JOSE, Calif. - A gay-rights uproar in the popular "World of Warcraft" online game has spurred the game's maker to review its treatment of gay players.

The game, which draws more than five million players worldwide, was hit by controversy last month after a player was threatened with expulsion from the virtual Warcraft world when she sought to recruit others into her gay-friendly team.

Blizzard Entertainment, the game's maker, apologized last week to the player, Sara Andrews of Nashville, Tenn.

It said the warning was a mistake and that it will make some changes to prevent a repeat, Andrews and her attorney from the Lambda Legal civil rights organization said Wednesday.

Blizzard representatives did not return phone calls for comment.

Gay-friendly teams already exist in Warcraft, but the issue here stemmed from Blizzard's enforcement of its policy banning the harassment of players based on sexual, religious or political affiliation.

According to correspondence between Andrews and game officials, the company said it does not allow such recruitment efforts on its general chat channels to help prevent harassment.

Andrews, 25, said she protested because she had done similar recruitment in the past without reprimand and noted that many others associated with a political or other affiliation have done the same.

While the harassment policy is sound, trying to silence players from stating their sexual affiliation is not, contended Brian Chase, a Lambda Legal staff attorney.

"If you want to stop harassment, you should punish the harasser, not the victim," Andrews said.

As part of its review, Blizzard this week instituted a new chat channel specifically for recruitment and told Andrews it also plans to provide sensitivity training to the employees who monitor the online play and communications forums.

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Old February 22nd, 2006, 11:46 AM   #2
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I don't get why ayone would want to make a guild based on political or social values to begin with.

(1:General- Teldrassil)LFG for BFD run. Need healer and tank, no (insert racial or societle slur here) players plz.

I wish I could weed out the stupid preist that decides to work on herbalism while my guy is getting his arse handed to him instaed of paying attention to whats going on.

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It seems it was kind of the other way... It was a homosexual guild seeking other homosexuals only to play with... required prerequisite and Blizzard said no, then got slammed for it and said, okay they can do it...

But yeah I agree both ways are crazy and should not be in there, not sure about allowed or disallowed, just not there...
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Just say no to WOW and [mostly] teener boppers with no manners.

Come over to Everquest II, where the adults play.
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Just say no to WOW and [mostly] teener boppers with no manners.

Come over to Everquest II, where the adults play.
Actually it is the other way around...
EQII has a much younger crowd...

and popularity is night and day...

http://www.gamespy.com/articles/569/569110p1.html

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Actually it is the other way around...
EQII has a much younger crowd...

and popularity is night and day...

http://www.gamespy.com/articles/569/569110p1.html
They might say it but it isn't true. WoW is heavily populated with [apparently] arrogant 15 years olds.

Most folks in EQ II are 25+, many are far older than that [unfortunatly ]
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Just say no to WOW and [mostly] teener boppers with no manners.

Come over to Everquest II, where the adults play.
I've certainly learned to ask questions before joining a group quest. The first couple I had kids just screwing around then log out in the middle etc. Now I try to be more selective. Never heard of Eq2. I'll look into it.
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They might say it but it isn't true. WoW is heavily populated with [apparently] arrogant 15 years olds.

Most folks in EQ II are 25+, many are far older than that [unfortunatly ]
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the survey data, the average age of the WoW player is 28.3 (SD = 8.4). 84% of players are male. 16% are female. Female players are significantly older (M = 32.5, SD = 10.0) than male players (M = 28.0, SD = 8.4). On average, they spend 22.7 (SD = 14.1) hours per week playing WoW. There are no gender differences in hours played per week.

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So by your Numbers EQ players are an average of 3 years younger...
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Most of the folks I run into in EQ 2 are married, with kids etc.

If anybody does try it out make sure you create you characters on the Butcherblock server.

You might find a couple of characters with names you recognise
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