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Old November 1st, 2007, 08:03 AM   #1
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Performance enhancing drugs - Who cares!


http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/chi...618974100.html

Cautionary tale for those who think that taking performance enhancing drugs is a largely victimless crime.
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Old November 1st, 2007, 10:21 AM   #2
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http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/chi...618974100.html

Cautionary tale for those who think that taking performance enhancing drugs is a largely victimless crime.
But most people on this board seem to think that all drug use is a victimless crime and should be made legal.

"Meth, Roids, and Heroin for all" seems to be the rally cry lately.
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Old November 1st, 2007, 10:31 AM   #3
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But most people on this board seem to think that all drug use is a victimless crime and should be made legal.

"Meth, Roids, and Heroin for all" seems to be the rally cry lately.
Yeah, because that's why it should be made legal.

Drug use is not a victimless crime...but the criminal drug element causes a TON of the crimes people are victimized by.

Legalize...tax...regulate.
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Old November 1st, 2007, 10:33 AM   #4
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And currently alcohol, tobacco and caffiene, all legal, cause birth problems. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, etc. Nothing with them being legal is stopping the defects, just like the drugs being illegal isn't making the defects go away either.
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Old November 1st, 2007, 11:19 AM   #5
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And currently alcohol, tobacco and caffiene, all legal, cause birth problems. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, etc. Nothing with them being legal is stopping the defects, just like the drugs being illegal isn't making the defects go away either.
I take it that you don't have teenagers to raise?
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Old November 1st, 2007, 11:25 AM   #6
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I take it that you don't have teenagers to raise?
What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

Seriously. I have children, and drugs is a major concern for me. And the legality/illegality of drugs will not stop my kids from doing them if they choose to. Do you know how many kids smoke pot?

I will strive to make sure my kids never touch drugs of any sort, but my head isn't in the sand.
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Old November 1st, 2007, 11:28 AM   #7
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I take it that you don't have teenagers to raise?
What does that have to do with anything? If you talk to your kids and tell them how bad it is you have a very good percentage they won't get involved with drugs. And who said anything about legalizing Heroin, meth, or Roids? The most common illegal drug is more than likely pot and our DEA spends a crap load of time/money on a drug that is on par with alcohol. Legalize it and put that time and money into the more dangerous drugs.
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Old November 1st, 2007, 11:33 AM   #8
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What does that have to do with anything? If you talk to your kids and tell them how bad it is you have a very good percentage they won't get involved with drugs. And who said anything about legalizing Heroin, meth, or Roids? The most common illegal drug is more than likely pot and our DEA spends a crap load of time/money on a drug that is on par with alcohol. Legalize it and put that time and money into the more dangerous drugs.
Donald is the one who said to legalize everything.
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What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

Seriously. I have children, and drugs is a major concern for me. And the legality/illegality of drugs will not stop my kids from doing them if they choose to. Do you know how many kids smoke pot?

I will strive to make sure my kids never touch drugs of any sort, but my head isn't in the sand.
I don't think wanting hard drugs to be illegal is sticking your head in the sand. I think believing the current system is working would be sticking your head in the sand. Legalizing them would be throwing your hands in the air and saying "well we tried boys".
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Donald is the one who said to legalize everything.
Ahh... that is in the other thread. Got it now. I'm not so keen on legalizing meth, etc... But I do see where Donald is coming from and it might work but it could back fire IMO.
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Old November 1st, 2007, 11:45 AM   #11
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I don't think wanting hard drugs to be illegal is sticking your head in the sand. I think believing the current system is working would be sticking your head in the sand. Legalizing them would be throwing your hands in the air and saying "well we tried boys".
Sticking my head in the sand was not meant in any way to address the drug industry.

It was meant as a comment towards "do you raise teenagers" garbage where it insinuates I'd be all fine and dandy for my kids to do drugs because I think they should be legalized. Two completely different things. And my head would be in the sand if I thought my kids wouldn't be doing drugs simply because they are against the lawas if that's the extent of prevention I think there is today.
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It was meant as a comment towards "do you raise teenagers" garbage where it insinuates I'd be all fine and dandy for my kids to do drugs because I think they should be legalized.
This is why a grass roots groundswell for legalization of even the softer drugs just can't happen. Even if a vast majority of voters supported the idea in theory, most people are afraid to publically make an effort to effect change for fear of being labeled in this manner by their peers along with their fear of the perception it may give to their kids. Not to mention fear of repercussion in the workplace.
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Hell - kids get high huffing butane, metallic spray paint, gasoline fumes, NO2...
These things can do MORE damage than drugs and that fruit of the cannabis plant people refer to as "pot".
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Sticking my head in the sand was not meant in any way to address the drug industry.

It was meant as a comment towards "do you raise teenagers" garbage where it insinuates I'd be all fine and dandy for my kids to do drugs because I think they should be legalized. Two completely different things. And my head would be in the sand if I thought my kids wouldn't be doing drugs simply because they are against the lawas if that's the extent of prevention I think there is today.
So you do want to legalize meth?
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So you do want to legalize meth?
Quite possibly, yes. I'd like to eliminate the criminal element around drugs in general. I don't see legalizing meth as some big deal where everyone says "whew, thank goodness. Now I can get face sores and have my teeth fall out and not have to worry about the cops. I mean, it was only the cops keeping me away."

Note when I say legalizing it I don't mean allowing people to advertise about their "awesome new highs with P&G clean Meth. No Bathtub Mix here!" Just a highly regulated, probably gov. controlled method of allowing methheads to get their fix without going to the dopeman and helping fund gang violence.
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