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Old July 15th, 2003, 12:51 PM   #16
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WOW talk about reading into things. People with those conditions should consider retiring. Don't put words in peoples mouths. Simply prefacing a statement about them retiring. Heaven forbid someone mention acutal facts about their state of Health!
Here is the plain fact. Robertson wants them out...by retirement or death. That is plain fact. He just doesn;t say to kill them because that would step over some imaginary line. He doesn;t care how they are removed, just that they are so Conservative judges can be put in there.
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Old July 15th, 2003, 12:54 PM   #17
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Re: Re: Re: Pat Robertson prays for the "removal" of liberals in the Supreme Court


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Oh I must have missed the statement where it said it was the only thing he was praying for...get real you guys are really reaching. I am sure there are many many many things he is praying for.
This is just the thing that will keep him in the public eye. How good media wise is it to pray for laid off people to find jobs to help their families and to pray for sick kids to feel better.
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Old July 15th, 2003, 01:07 PM   #18
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This is just the thing that will keep him in the public eye. How good media wise is it to pray for laid off people to find jobs to help their families and to pray for sick kids to feel better.
Well that wouldn't be news would it.
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Old July 15th, 2003, 01:08 PM   #19
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Here is the plain fact. Robertson wants them out...by retirement or death. That is plain fact. He just doesn;t say to kill them because that would step over some imaginary line. He doesn;t care how they are removed, just that they are so Conservative judges can be put in there.
It's plain fact that he wants them to die? I am glad you all can read his mind. Talk about extreme..
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It's plain fact that he wants them to die? I am glad you all can read his mind. Talk about extreme..

Based on past Robertson "prayers" I would say yes, he does.
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Old July 15th, 2003, 01:18 PM   #21
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It's plain fact that he wants them to die? I am glad you all can read his mind. Talk about extreme..
I would say it is implied he doesn't care how they leave their seat, just that they do. He gains nothing but scorn if he says he wants them to die but if that is what it takes to rid the Supreme Court of them, I would bet you all the money I have he will believe God (his God not mine) answered his prayers. He says retirement but....
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Old July 15th, 2003, 02:06 PM   #22
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It's plain fact that he wants them to die? I am glad you all can read his mind. Talk about extreme..
He flat out said the city I live in would be destroyed because Disney allowed homosexuals in the park. I'm not cool with that.
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WOW talk about reading into things. People with those conditions should consider retiring. Don't put words in peoples mouths. Simply prefacing a statement about them retiring. Heaven forbid someone mention acutal facts about their state of Health!
Exactly!
One of those poople is one of our own, Justice William Rehnquist, who formed the far right wing of the Supreme Court along with Scalia and Thomas.
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I see I am not the only one who saw this as a death threat

Pat Robertson Loses It in Attack on High Court
by Sheryl McCarthy

Pat Robertson has finally gone over the edge.

This week on his national TV show the religious broadcaster urged his followers to join a 21-day "prayer offensive," asking God to remove three liberal-leaning justices from the Supreme Court.

Robertson was angered by the court's decision last month decriminalizing sodomy, claiming it opened the door to homosexual marriage, legalized prostitution, even incest. If his followers pray hard enough, God might make these sick and elderly justices see the wisdom of retiring, he said, although the underlying suggestion seemed to be that if they don't, they could be struck dead.

"We ask for miracles in regard to the Supreme Court," Robertson said pompously.

The justices, whom Robertson failed to call by name, must be quaking in their boots. After all, this is the guy who claims his prayers worked another miracle in 1985 by diverting a hurricane that was headed straight for the Christian Broadcasting Network headquarters in Chesapeake, Va. The hurricane landed in Long Island instead.

A few years later when Robertson predicted that hurricanes, meteors and other disasters would rain down on Orlando, Fla. - because Disney World was holding "gay days" - his powers failed him. Nothing happened. But he seems convinced that he has the power to call down the wrath of God on his enemies.

Back in the civil-rights movement days, many a black minister led his congregation in prayers asking God to change the hearts and minds of their oppressors, so that they would mend their ways. Those were acts of supplication, however. Robertson's prayer offensive - aptly named - sounds more like a self-righteous power play.

"Every time he opens his mouth he's an embarrassment to Christianity," said the Rev. Joseph C. Hough Jr., president of New York City's Union Theological Seminary.

"This notion that he can manipulate God by praying and getting God to accomplish whatever his political agenda is, is reprehensible. ... Not only is that arrogant. It's just simply inappropriate to use the spiritual life as a bludgeon on people with whom you disagree."

Hough said there are some Supreme Court justices he also thinks are just terrible, but that it would be more appropriate for Robertson to ask his followers to appeal to Congress or to the media if they want different justices on the court. Robertson shouldn't be intruding on people's most private spiritual moments to advance his beliefs.

Robertson made another crazy pronouncement this week, criticizing President George W. Bush for calling on Liberian president Charles Taylor to step down. Robertson's complaint: that it's wrong to undermine Taylor, a professed Christian and a Baptist minister, and allow Muslim rebels to take over the country.

This reasoning is beyond wacky. Taylor is a hoodlum and an indicted war criminal, whose years as a rebel and later as Liberia's president have plunged the country into endless bloodshed and political repression, and created a steady stream of refugees out of the country. Because Taylor's also a weapons dealer who has sold weapons to neighboring countries like Sierra Leone, he has helped spread violence and misery to those countries as well.

The real motivation behind Robertson's support of Taylor seems to be to protect CBN's investment in a Liberian gold-mining venture. Taylor, a showman like Robertson, has been known to dress in white and conduct mass prayer meetings, even as he denies his crimes. The two belong together.

With his smug Cheshire-cat demeanor, Robertson, like a latter-day Zeus, delights in hurling down thunderbolts at the godless liberals who don't happen to agree with him. "My God will strike them down!" he says. More and more, though, he just sounds stupid.

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And this part is truly wacked:

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Robertson made another crazy pronouncement this week, criticizing President George W. Bush for calling on Liberian president Charles Taylor to step down. Robertson's complaint: that it's wrong to undermine Taylor, a professed Christian and a Baptist minister, and allow Muslim rebels to take over the country.

This reasoning is beyond wacky. Taylor is a hoodlum and an indicted war criminal, whose years as a rebel and later as Liberia's president have plunged the country into endless bloodshed and political repression, and created a steady stream of refugees out of the country. Because Taylor's also a weapons dealer who has sold weapons to neighboring countries like Sierra Leone, he has helped spread violence and misery to those countries as well.

The real motivation behind Robertson's support of Taylor seems to be to protect CBN's investment in a Liberian gold-mining venture. Taylor, a showman like Robertson, has been known to dress in white and conduct mass prayer meetings, even as he denies his crimes. The two belong together.
So, Pat - Taylor is ok just because he is a Baptist Minister, even though he has slaughtered thousands?

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Anyone who supports Robertson, the 700 Club, etc. supports mass-murders - nice.
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Anyone who supports Robertson, the 700 Club, etc. supports mass-murders - nice.
That's a touch inflammatory, don't you think?
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That's a touch inflammatory, don't you think?
A little, but true. Robertson and CBN has investments in Liberia. Robertson is using money from his viewers to prop up a corrupt and murderous regime.
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Robertson Clarifies Supreme Court Remarks

By SONJA BARISIC, Associated Press Writer

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson said Thursday he was not talking about any particular Supreme Court justices when he asked his television audience to pray that three liberal justices retire.

"I don't care which three, I mean as long as the three conservatives stay on," Robertson said at a news conference at Regent University, which he leads as president and chancellor. "There's six liberals, so it's up to the Lord.

"I'm not telling God what to do," he added. "I'm just saying, 'Lord, help us.'"

Robertson, as host of "The 700 Club" on his Christian Broadcasting Network, earlier this month began the 21-day "Operation Supreme Court Freedom." He is asking people to pray to God to change the court after its 6-3 decision in June that decriminalized sodomy.

Robertson said in a letter posted on CBN's Web site that the ruling "has opened the door to homosexual marriage, bigamy, legalized prostitution and even incest."

Robertson's letter did not identify anyone, but appeared to refer to specific justices, saying: "One justice is 83 years old, another has cancer, and another has a heart condition. Would it not be possible for God to put it in the minds of these three judges that the time has come to retire?"

Justice John Paul Stevens was born in 1920 and Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg had colon cancer surgery in 1999.
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