Palin steps down - Page 2

Absolute Zero · July 3rd, 2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 82CardsGrad

... this is just further evidence that only the bottom-feeding, scum-sucking, sell-my-soul to the highest bidder Americans are willing to wade into the quicksand of national politics...
Anyone who makes it to elected office, particularly those inside the beltway, are all worthless scum... all of them...

Are you including our current President in this statement?

If so, I am curious who you are saying he "sold his soul" to?

82CardsGrad · July 3rd, 2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Absolute Zero

Are you including our current President in this statement?

If so, I am curious who you are saying he "sold his soul" to?

Zero - please... I know you have contructed a memorial tribute to Obama in your front yard. You can't really expect me to engage in this debate with you.

Absolute Zero · July 3rd, 2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 82CardsGrad

Zero - please... I know you have contructed a memorial tribute to Obama in your front yard. You can't really expect me to engage in this debate with you.

What a BS response. Step up to the plate man, or back off.

82CardsGrad · July 3rd, 2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Absolute Zero

What a BS response. Step up to the plate man, or back off.

Let me ask: Can you come up with one thing that Obama has said or done that you disagree with? Anything?

82CardsGrad · July 3rd, 2009, 03:37 PM

To answer your question though Zero... IMO Obama is no different than the rest of them. He uses people just as much as any other politician. I would think Rev Wright might have a thing or two to say about that...
Obama is steering this country into a brick wall. It's convenient for him still as with only 6 months or so under his belt, he can continue to blame Bush for all of this. But soon, that won't fly anymore. And the trillions upon trillions of debt and deficits will be his to answer to...
The "good" war in Afghanistan will continue to develop and require more and more blood and money from America.
His careless, wild spending will only deepen and lengthen this recession/depression.

Meanwhile, Obama will continue to spend and buy (I really wouldn't be surprised to see him eventually loan $$ to states as more and more begin to look like California).

I know you believe Obama is different. That after 40 years of the same, he honestly, truly and really is "the one". Dream on Zero... I'm sure it's a happier place living in that world.

RedStorm · July 3rd, 2009, 03:51 PM

AZero has an Obama Shrine in his front yard. Cool.....

Matt Self · July 3rd, 2009, 03:51 PM

82, as someone who is looking for a reason to wear the conservative moniker again, I don't get your allegiance to Palin. At all. She wasn't going to entice me back. At all. And I'm the voter you're hoping to lure back.

What do you want the Republican party to look like? Here's what I want it to look like:

- Focus on the debt. The debt. The debt. Did I mention the debt?
- Less focus on polarized social issues like abortion and gay rights.
- Personal rights, sane less gov't (i.e. less gov't, not no gov't)
- Belief that empowering the individual fuels power to the people

Present me that candidate and I'll come back to the GOP. Palin is a step in the other direction.

RedStorm · July 3rd, 2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaddabout

82, as someone who is looking for a reason to wear the conservative moniker again, I don't get your allegiance to Palin. At all. She wasn't going to entice me back. At all. And I'm the voter you're hoping to lure back.

What do you want the Republican party to look like? Here's what I want it to look like:

- Focus on the debt. The debt. The debt. Did I mention the debt?
- Less focus on polarized social issues like abortion and gay rights.
- Personal rights, sane less gov't (i.e. less gov't, not no gov't)
- Belief that empowering the individual fuels power to the people

Present me that candidate and I'll come back to the GOP. Palin is a step in the other direction.

I agree with you on all points except for number 2. Less focus..maybe. Need to know what you mean on this one.

But, number 1.....FISCAL SANITY PLEASE!!!!!!

nidan · July 3rd, 2009, 03:56 PM

That was pretty much what I was saying Gad

Absolute Zero · July 3rd, 2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 82CardsGrad

Let me ask: Can you come up with one thing that Obama has said or done that you disagree with? Anything?

I am deeply troubled with the continuing loss of innocent lives at the hands of our military/CIA in Pakistan and Afganistan.

I am concerned about the high levels of federal spending, though it may be necessary to pull us out of this economic mess, I am not comfortable with it.

I don't like the legal limbo of that particular category of Guantanimo detainees that are not being prosecuted, but just being held indefinitely. Don't know what I would do differently, but I don't like it.

Those are a few things that I am troubled by.

As for your other post, it doesn't support your assertion that Obama is a "bottom-feeding, scum-sucking, sell-my-soul to the highest bidder...".

Being entitled to my own opinion, and having seen Obama enough in person and otherwise, I beg to differ. Say what you want about his policies, but the man has a genuine concern for the American people and everyday people like you and I.

Matt Self · July 3rd, 2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RedStorm

I agree with you on all points except for number 2. Less focus..maybe. Need to know what you mean on this one.

But, number 1.....FISCAL SANITY PLEASE!!!!!!

I've started another thread for conservatives only. Maybe we should hash it out thee.

82CardsGrad · July 3rd, 2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaddabout

82, as someone who is looking for a reason to wear the conservative moniker again, I don't get your allegiance to Palin. At all. She wasn't going to entice me back. At all. And I'm the voter you're hoping to lure back.

What do you want the Republican party to look like? Here's what I want it to look like:

- Focus on the debt. The debt. The debt. Did I mention the debt?
- Less focus on polarized social issues like abortion and gay rights.
- Personal rights, sane less gov't (i.e. less gov't, not no gov't)
- Belief that empowering the individual fuels power to the people

Present me that candidate and I'll come back to the GOP. Palin is a step in the other direction.

OK - for the record, I am no longer a registered Republican. I was thinking about making a separate thread just to make that proclaimation... maybe I should. I am now an officially registered Indy...
Gadd - not sure why you interpret my comments as an "allegiance" to Palin? My switch to being an Indy should demonstrate how much faith I placed in her...
As for your description what a plausible, attractive conservative candidate should look like, I say -

82CardsGrad · July 3rd, 2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Absolute Zero

I am deeply troubled with the continuing loss of innocent lives at the hands of our military/CIA in Pakistan and Afganistan.

I am concerned about the high levels of federal spending, though it may be necessary to pull us out of this economic mess, I am not comfortable with it.

I don't like the legal limbo of that particular category of Guantanimo detainees that are not being prosecuted, but just being held indefinitely. Don't know what I would do differently, but I don't like it.

Those are a few things that I am troubled by.

As for your other post, it doesn't support your assertion that Obama is a "bottom-feeding, scum-sucking, sell-my-soul to the highest bidder...".

Being entitled to my own opinion, and having seen Obama enough in person and otherwise, I beg to differ. Say what you want about his policies, but the man has a genuine concern for the American people and everyday people like you and I.

Not a bad list... As for his genuine concern - millions felt the same way about many previous Presidents. I've learned to be much more skeptical. I'll now start from a position of "they are all scum" and would be quite pleased to be proven wrong!

Divide Et Impera · July 3rd, 2009, 06:04 PM

This lady is an absolute freakshow. If this is some kind of political calculation aimed at 2012, she just shot her head off. If she can even make it through the GOP primary now with all the sniping she'll get over this, it'll only get worse and cause her to wither completely in the final showdown.

That said, I don't think this is about that at all. There is something there that is gonna be revealed soon because that kind of political calculation just doesn't make any rational, logical, reasonable sense. Oh, but I guess we ARE talking about Palin after all....

40yearfan · July 3rd, 2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardinals.Ken

She needs to make a porn with Tina Fey...that would earn my vote!

That would get my vote also. I might even vote 200 to 300 times for that.