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Old May 11th, 2004, 03:17 PM   #1
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Pa. family angry with American government over son's brutal death (Iraqi beheading)


Pa. family angry with American government over son's brutal death

By JASON STRAZIUSO
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5/11/2004, 2:34 p.m. ET


WEST CHESTER, Pa. (AP) — The family of an American civilian shown beheaded on an Islamic militant Web site huddled in in tears Tuesday after learning of the existence of the graphic videotape.

The video showed Nick Berg, 26, in a staged execution carried out by an al-Qaida affiliated group. The video said the killing was to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers.

"My name is Nick Berg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is Suzanne," the man said on the video before being killed. "I have a brother and sister, David and Sara. I live in ... Philadelphia."

Berg's family said U.S. State Department officials on Monday had told them Berg was decapitated. The family, though, had wanted that information to remain private.

When told about news of the Web site Nick Berg's father, brother and sister, collapsed to the ground in a tearful hug in their front yard.

"I knew he was decapitated before," said the father, Michael Berg. "That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public."

Michael Berg lashed out at the U.S. military and Bush administration, saying his son might still be alive had he not been detained by U.S. officials in Iraq without being charged and without access to a lawyer.

Nick Berg, a small telecommunications business owner, spoke to his parents on March 24 and told them he would return home on March 30. But Berg was detained by Iraqi police at a checkpoint in Mosul on March 24. He was turned over to U.S. officials and detained for 13 days.

His father, Michael, said his son wasn't allowed to make phone calls or contact a lawyer.

FBI agents visited Berg's parents in West Chester on March 31 and told the family they were trying to confirm their son's identity. On April 5, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia, contending that their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military. The next day Berg was released. He told his parents he hadn't been mistreated.

Michael Berg said he blamed the U.S. government for creating circumstances that led to his son's death. He said if his son hadn't been detained for so long, he might have been able to leave the country before the violence worsened.

"I think a lot of people are fed up with the lack of civil rights this thing has caused," he said. "I don't think this administration is committed to democracy."

The Bergs last heard from their son April 9, when he said he would come home by way of Jordan.

Berg had traveled several times to Third World countries to help spread technology, his family said. He had previously traveled to Kenya and Ghana, where they said he had purchased a $900 brick-making press for a poor village, the family said.

Berg's mother, Suzanne Berg, said her son was in Iraq to help rebuild communication antennas.

"He had this idea that he could help rebuild the infrastructure," she said.

Michael Berg described himself as fervently anti-war, but said his son disagreed with him.

"He was a Bush supporter," Berg said. "He looked at it as bringing democracy to a country that didn't have it."

Suzanne Berg said she was told her son's body would be transported to Kuwait and then to Dover, Del. She said the family had been trying for weeks to learn where their son was but that federal officials had not been helpful.

"I went through this with them for weeks," she said. "I basically ended up doing most of the investigating myself."
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Old May 11th, 2004, 03:23 PM   #2
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Old May 11th, 2004, 03:51 PM   #3
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Why was he detained?
FBI is not saying.


He had a great end of his life - interogated by the FBI for 2 weeks, then released, only to be captured quickly (too quickly??) by Al Queda.
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Old May 11th, 2004, 03:55 PM   #4
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then released, only to be captured quickly (too quickly??) by Al Queda.

"Too quickly"?!?

Meaning what?
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Old May 11th, 2004, 04:11 PM   #5
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"Too quickly"?!?

Meaning what?
Did al-Queda/or who ever is responsible for this have knowledge of him/his release? How confident are we of the loyalties of the Iraqis that the FBI is working with.
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Old May 11th, 2004, 04:15 PM   #6
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Did al-Queda/or who ever is responsible for this have knowledge of him/his release? How confident are we of the loyalties of the Iraqis that the FBI is working with.
Wow. That's a huge leap....
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Old May 11th, 2004, 05:06 PM   #7
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Michael Berg lashed out at the U.S. military and Bush administration, saying his son might still be alive had he not been detained by U.S. officials in Iraq without being charged and without access to a lawyer.


Nice treatment of a US citizen....what's wrong with this picture??? How can this be defended?
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Old May 11th, 2004, 05:14 PM   #8
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Nice treatment of a US citizen....what's wrong with this picture??? How can this be defended?

sarcasm We must give the state any powers they need to ensure "national security" /sarcasm

The question is who is going to ensure our security from the state?
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The question is who is going to ensure our security from the state?
A question the Berg family seems to be dealing with at this point in time.
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sarcasm We must give the state any powers they need to ensure "national security" /sarcasm

The question is who is going to ensure our security from the state?
Exactly.
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Nice treatment of a US citizen....what's wrong with this picture??? How can this be defended?
Nickle, I can't find the article now, but according to it, he didn't follow the proper channels when he left this country and went over there and that's why he was detained. It's a shame they didn't keep him longer and see that he got safe passage home. He obviously was trying to help the Iraqi's.
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Wow. That's a huge leap....
How so - a quick phone call from anyone that knew an American that did not have any security, etc was wandering around Iraq - prime target for kidnapping.
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Nice treatment of a US citizen....what's wrong with this picture??? How can this be defended?
Now wait a minute, He went there of his own free will on some kind of personal save the world agenda. The authorities detained him long enough to determine he was no threat to us and sent him on his way.

If they had forcfully sent him back to the US they would be in trouble for violating this dumba**es rights.

As it is, An American citizen was fully allowed to exorcise his right of freedom right up to his death. Freedom does not mean the rest of the US has to save your sorry butt when you get it in a sling.

I don't agree with how he died or the pigs that ended it so cruelly. But, he chose to be there. And if he and his family didn't understand the danger they are all idiots. Don't come crying now about how Uncle Sam didn't do enough to protect you in a hostile foriegn land.

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How so - a quick phone call from anyone that knew an American that did not have any security, etc was wandering around Iraq - prime target for kidnapping.

Oh, I see. I thought you were implying something more sinister. I can actually see how that could have happened.
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How so - a quick phone call from anyone that knew an American that did not have any security, etc was wandering around Iraq - prime target for kidnapping.
Who's job is it to provide the security?

Again, I absolutely hate those people for what they did to him. I also think he is 100% to blame. That's like walking into an alligator pit with a raw chicken tied to your balls. Nothing good can come of it.
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