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WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush offered a broad defense of his foreign policy and said his message that "the world is more peaceful and more free under my leadership" will be a prominent theme of his bid for a second White House term.
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But if you think about it, it really isn't funny, its pretty sad.
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Originally posted by SUTTILL WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush offered a broad defense of his foreign policy and said his message that "the world is more peaceful and more free under my leadership" will be a prominent theme of his bid for a second White House term.
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But if you think about it, it really isn't funny, its pretty sad.
Originally posted by SUTTILL WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush offered a broad defense of his foreign policy and said his message that "the world is more peaceful and more free under my leadership" will be a prominent theme of his bid for a second White House term.
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But if you think about it, it really isn't funny, its pretty sad.
Depends on what he is comparing it to. Is the world safer or more dangerous then it was under Clinton, Bush I, Reagan or Carter? I think right now its a push. As old dangers have subsided new ones have surfaced. In regards to a "more free" world, I'm not sure if that's technically not true. What democratic countries(and no the US is not a viable answer here ) have fallen to offset Iraq and Afghanistan having their dictatorships removed? Not to mention several African nations are "free" now as if it matters.
Although I'm sure all those Bush haters will blindly chortle at what they percieve to be the state of the world. Oh hey look, Dback Jon already did.
Originally posted by CardinalMike Depends on what he is comparing it to. Is the world safer or more dangerous then it was under Clinton, Bush I, Reagan or Carter? I think right now its a push. As old dangers have subsided new ones have surfaced. In regards to a "more free" world, I'm not sure if that's technically not true. What democratic countries(and no the US is not a viable answer here ) have fallen to offset Iraq and Afghanistan having their dictatorships removed? Not to mention several African nations are "free" now as if it matters.
Although I'm sure all those Bush haters will blindly chortle at what they percieve to be the state of the world. Oh hey look, Dback Jon already did.
Cardinal Mike!!
PATRIOT ACT!!!!!!
But of course, you would forget that altogether since it undermines your whole stance.
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Originally posted by CardinalMike Depends on what he is comparing it to. Is the world safer or more dangerous then it was under Clinton, Bush I, Reagan or Carter? I think right now its a push. As old dangers have subsided new ones have surfaced. In regards to a "more free" world, I'm not sure if that's technically not true. What democratic countries(and no the US is not a viable answer here ) have fallen to offset Iraq and Afghanistan having their dictatorships removed? Not to mention several African nations are "free" now as if it matters.
Cardinal Mike!!
Chortle or not, the "joke" is 1) That this is going to be his campaign theme; and 2) that he is using the word "more peaceful", not safer or more free, etc. More peaceful, come again??? Over 3,000 civilians have died in Iraq in this war that is still ongoing, our troups are being engaged in guerilla warfare approximately 22 times per day in Iraq according to latest estimates, and every terrorist in the world now has a battlefield against us, not to mention a greater motivation to attack us. I don't think that is more peaceful one bit. Not only that, under the new "Bush doctrine", other countries are living under an express threat of being attacked by us preemptively.
Whether or not this is good foreign policy is open for debate, but the world certainly certainly isn't more at peace.
Fox News Channel threatened to sue the producers of The Simpsons following an episode that poked fun of the "crawl" items that are superimposed over the channel's newscasts, Simpsons creator Matt Groening said during an interview on National Public Radio Tuesday. The Simpsons airs on the Fox television network, a corporate sibling of FNC. "Fox said they would sue the show. And we called their bluff because we didn't think Rupert Murdoch would pay for Fox to sue itself. We got away with it," Groening said. (Among the items on the crawl: "Do Democrats cause cancer? Find out at foxnews.com ... Rupert Murdoch: Terrific dancer ... Dow down 5000 points ... Study: 92 per cent of Democrats are gay ... JFK posthumously joins Republican Party ... Oil slicks found to keep seals young, supple. ..." A spokesman for Fox News denied that it had ever threatened to sue the producers.
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Originally posted by SUTTILL WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush offered a broad defense of his foreign policy and said his message that "the world is more peaceful and more free under my leadership" will be a prominent theme of his bid for a second White House term.
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But if you think about it, it really isn't funny, its pretty sad.
Classic...peaceful? I think he means more violent...
(Among the items on the crawl: "Do Democrats cause cancer? Find out at foxnews.com ... Rupert Murdoch: Terrific dancer ... Dow down 5000 points ... Study: 92 per cent of Democrats are gay ... JFK posthumously joins Republican Party ... Oil slicks found to keep seals young, supple. ..."
LOL, and they say the Simpsons isn't funny anymore.
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Originally posted by SUTTILL Chortle or not, the "joke" is 1) That this is going to be his campaign theme; and 2) that he is using the word "more peaceful", not safer or more free, etc. More peaceful, come again??? Over 3,000 civilians have died in Iraq in this war that is still ongoing, our troups are being engaged in guerilla warfare approximately 22 times per day in Iraq according to latest estimates, and every terrorist in the world now has a battlefield against us, not to mention a greater motivation to attack us. I don't think that is more peaceful one bit. Not only that, under the new "Bush doctrine", other countries are living under an express threat of being attacked by us preemptively.
Whether or not this is good foreign policy is open for debate, but the world certainly certainly isn't more at peace.
They have a greater motivation to attack us? Compared to when? Like on 9/11? The idea that "more terrorism" has been provoked by the wars in Afghan. & Iraq is baseless. They attacked us and killed out citizens and troops freely before. What has changed? Would you have us sit idle? Should we have turned the other cheek? If we had caught Bin Laudin would you think that would be the answer? These are a people who tried to shame us into honoring their "holy" days and then used the same period to launch attacks which killed nothing but innocent fellow Muslims.
People who do not care if they live or die can not be reconciled in any fashion. There is no common ground between those who don't care if they die and those who want to live. A movement who's strategy is rooted in killing woman and children in cold blood can only be ended by ending its exsistence. Is the world a safer place? Is it more peaceful?
I can't answer that question. Perhaps the hundreds, who are still alive, because the murdering terrorist who've been killed by our actions did not have the chnace to take their lives, can.
One fact is certain. At the rate our troops are being killed in Iraq it would take another 10 years to reach the number of Americans killed on 9/11. A sobbering thought and all the more reason to get the job done as effeciently as possible and bring the troops home. And may a merciful God and greatful nation watch over those who have given, what Lincoln called "the last full measure of devotion".
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Chicard, we have already killed more innocent Iraqi civillians than died on 9/11, so your "ten year" deal is out the window as far as I'm concerned. As for motivition, the presence of our troops in what are supposed to be 2 sovreign nations is a rallying cry for the terrorists. Think of it this way, if there were foreign troops occupying Maricopa County and shooting your fellow citizens, would you be motivated to do something.
As for your comment Shutd, you have it twisted. It is the wackos who think they are doing things for God or Country by killing people that have caused the problems throughout history. Its not God's fault they are hypocrites. For instance, Jesus taught "blessed are the peacemakers" and "love your enemies" and I really don't think He is pleased in anyway by all the fighting going on in the world. And, yes by the way I am a Christian who is very much against this War, there are quite a number of us out here.
As for "Country", the same principal applies. In this War, as in many others, blind patriotism has been advocated by many to advance the War. They forget that our Country was founded by some free thinkers who didn't want to be told by the government what to believe or what to think on various issues. So those hypocrites advocating blind patriotism are the problem, not the Country itself which stands for many good things that our leaders frequently forget about.
Originally posted by ChiCard They have a greater motivation to attack us? Compared to when? Like on 9/11? The idea that "more terrorism" has been provoked by the wars in Afghan. & Iraq is baseless. They attacked us and killed out citizens and troops freely before. What has changed? Would you have us sit idle? Should we have turned the other cheek? If we had caught Bin Laudin would you think that would be the answer? These are a people who tried to shame us into honoring their "holy" days and then used the same period to launch attacks which killed nothing but innocent fellow Muslims.
People who do not care if they live or die can not be reconciled in any fashion. There is no common ground between those who don't care if they die and those who want to live. A movement who's strategy is rooted in killing woman and children in cold blood can only be ended by ending its exsistence. Is the world a safer place? Is it more peaceful?
I can't answer that question. Perhaps the hundreds, who are still alive, because the murdering terrorist who've been killed by our actions did not have the chnace to take their lives, can.
One fact is certain. At the rate our troops are being killed in Iraq it would take another 10 years to reach the number of Americans killed on 9/11. A sobbering thought and all the more reason to get the job done as effeciently as possible and bring the troops home. And may a merciful God and greatful nation watch over those who have given, what Lincoln called "the last full measure of devotion".
You are exactly right, and I am sure that a large majority of American people understand this as well as you do. Can't wait untill elections. Maybe when they lose fourty states, they'll shut up about this, and actually HELP fight this war.
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) have fallen to offset Iraq and Afghanistan having their dictatorships removed? Not to mention several African nations are "free" now as if it matters.
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