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Fox wants U.N. to take action on U.S. death penalty issue
Fox wants U.N. to take action on U.S. death penalty issue
Traci Carl
Associated Press
Apr. 3, 2004 12:00 AM
MEXICO CITY - Mexican President Vicente Fox said Friday that the International Court of Justice and the United Nations will have to take action if the United States does not comply with a ruling that it review the cases of 51 Mexicans on death row.
In an interview with the board of directors for the Associated Press Managing Editors, Fox declined to say, however, whether Mexico would take additional measures if the U.S. government does not follow the order.
"We don't have any actions planned because we're expecting (the United States) to comply," he told the APME board of directors, which represents 1,700 newspapers in the United States and Canada. The board of directors is meeting this week in Mexico City.
The International Court of Justice, the United Nations' highest judiciary, ruled Wednesday that the United States violated the rights of Mexican inmates by denying them assistance to their government. That right is guaranteed under the 1963 Vienna Convention.
The court ordered the United States to review the Mexican cases, but the U.S. government has ignored the court's rulings in the past.
Wednesday's ruling raised questions from the eight states holding the inmates, but no assurances that they will try to address the court's concerns.
Mexico's Foreign Relations Department said this week that if U.S. officials do not comply voluntarily, Mexico would consider asking the U.N. Security Council to issue a resolution urging them to do so.
The death penalty has been a sore point in Mexican-U.S. relations, with Fox canceling a trip to meet with President Bush in 2002 after Texas executed a Mexican man convicted of killing a police officer. Fox is a strong opponent of the death penalty.
He said Friday that he hoped the United States would not only review the Mexican death penalty cases but ensure that all future foreigners convicted of a major crime had access to consular assistance from their governments.
In a wide-ranging interview, Fox also said his government would release a report in two weeks on the slayings of hundreds of women in the northern border city of Juarez. He said the report contains recommendations for weeding out corruption and would be "bad news for those who have not complied with the law."
Mexican and international human rights groups have harshly criticized state and federal government agencies for failing to resolve the killings. State investigators have been accused of using false evidence and torture to solve the cases.
Fox said his administration was doing everything possible to improve living conditions in the rough border city, including sending 500 federal police to the city and ensuring that women are paid equally and treated fairly in the many assembly-for-export plants. Such female factory workers have been the victims in many of those killings.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
Why is there a thumbs down on this post? He's not making any exorbitant demands, he just wants people to have the rights that they should have under the law. I personally am pro-death penalty and I think the whole appeals process is too long and expensive, but convicts still have legal rights under law....
Why is there a thumbs down on this post? He's not making any exorbitant demands, he just wants people to have the rights that they should have under the law. I personally am pro-death penalty and I think the whole appeals process is too long and expensive, but convicts still have legal rights under law....
What Fox really wants, is for citizens of Mexico who commit capital murder here, to be treated as if they are under the laws of Mexico (no capital punishment).
I have mixed opinions on the death penalty; over time I've felt (emotions) that some people just should be killed for their crimes. Fox doesn't agree, and he's basically trying to force us to treat his citizens as if they committed the crime in Mexico.
This is a sovereign country, and anyone who comes here is subject to our laws. If I were to try and smuggle a kilo of cocaine into Singapore, I would get the death penalty. I know that's the punish over there, and I give them the right to punish me when I enter their country (social contract).
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
I didn't read that into that article. I could see your point if that's what he were trying to do. I think it would be highly presumptuous of Fox to think that he could even fathom trying to change our laws when he and his country are so dependent on us for jobs in Mexico, jobs in the US, money from tourism, and money from trade. Mexico makes over well on us.....
I didn't read that into that article. I could see your point if that's what he were trying to do. I think it would be highly presumptuous of Fox to think that he could even fathom trying to change our laws when he and his country are so dependent on us for jobs in Mexico, jobs in the US, money from tourism, and money from trade. Mexico makes over well on us.....
Definitely. Mexico is our dependant. Without us, they would likely starve.
This brings a conundrum; we respect the international community and want to do business in the world, but we can't allow other countries to try and force their laws upon us.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
But, if we signed the Vienna Convention, shouldn't we abide by the rulings based on it, or abrogate the treaty?
We can't sign treaties, but then ignore provisions we don't like. Wasn't that one of the justifications for invading Iraq?
The United States is definately in bad company when it comes to the death penalty - most, if not all other democracies do not have the death penalties - only found in dictatorships like China and Saudi Arabia.
In 2002, there were at least 1,526 executions in 31 countries around the world. China, Iran and the United States were responsible for 81 percent of these known executions. The following countries executed defendants in 2002:
CHINA (Approx. 1,060 Executions)
IRAN (Approx. 113)
UNITED STATES (71)
Remaining Countries Listed Alphabetically
BELARUS
EGYPT
EQUATORIAL GUINEA
INDIA
IRAQ
JAPAN
JORDAN
KAZAKSTAN
KOREA (North)
KUWAIT
MALAYSIA
NIGERIA
PAKISTAN
PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY
SAUDIA ARABIA
SINGAPORE
SOMALIA
SUDAN
SYRIA
TAIWAN
TAJIKISTAN
THAILAND
UGANDA
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
UZBEKISTAN
VIETNAM
YEMEN
ZIMBABWE
Interesting Fox chooses to take such a strong stand against our legal system when, in the next paragraph, it changes focus to their own failures in being able to police Jaurez.
I've had friends arrested in Mexico. And trust me the first words out of the cops mouths is not "Would you like some American legal representation?" puleez.
In 2002, there were at least 1,526 executions in 31 countries around the world. China, Iran and the United States were responsible for 81 percent of these known executions. The following countries executed defendants in 2002:
CHINA (Approx. 1,060 Executions)
IRAN (Approx. 113)
UNITED STATES (71)
Remaining Countries Listed Alphabetically
BELARUS
EGYPT
EQUATORIAL GUINEA
INDIA
IRAQ
JAPAN
JORDAN
KAZAKSTAN
KOREA (North)
KUWAIT
MALAYSIA
NIGERIA
PAKISTAN
PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY
SAUDIA ARABIA
SINGAPORE
SOMALIA
SUDAN
SYRIA
TAIWAN
TAJIKISTAN
THAILAND
UGANDA
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
UZBEKISTAN
VIETNAM
YEMEN
ZIMBABWE
SOURCE: Amnesty International
Not exactly the beacons of light in this world.
As I said, I have very mixed opinions on the death penalty.
Since I'm not a Christian, and I don't think we will be "judged" after life, that part of me wants to see people pay for their crimes.
But it isn't exactly justice; if one innocent man dies, the entire system is wrong.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
I don't think a single case has been proven that anyone totally innocent has been executed in the last 50 years. The system is working pretty well.
No offense (I respect you) but this is a pretty naive position. Since the advent of DNA, deathrow inmates have been exonerated. If they are exonerated today, it doesn't take a huge leap in logice to assume that a few innocent people have been executed.
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26-year-old Saermengsi last season rated average 25.1 minutes, with 7.5 hours, 2.7 times and 2.7 backboard secondary attack, he Yifusen general as the replacement came in March Yifusen injuries ever period of time, three matches in a row, his secondary attack will reach 10. By Sun team, he could strengthen outer lane line, but also as the replacement fullback scored his general customary activities in the stadium two wings. On the season Saermengsi-ball hit rate reached 30%. He was in flames and Jones made a three-year teammate, Jones said that the organizers he pitches, but he can also shooting. His shooting is deceptive.
In 2002, there were at least 1,526 executions in 31 countries around the world. China, Iran and the United States were responsible for 81 percent of these known executions.
31 countries are on that list, but as of 2004 there are still 90 countries that retain and use the death penalty for traditional crimes...
Afghanistan
Algeria
Antigua and Barbuda
Armenia
Bahamas
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belarus
Belize
Benin
Botswana
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Cameroon
Chad
Chile
China
Comoros
Cuba
Dominica
Egypt
Equatorial-Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gabon
Ghana
Guatemala
Guinea
Guyana
India
Indonesia
(Republic of China)
Iran
Iraq
Jamaica
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kenya
North Korea
South Korea
Kuwait
Kyrgystan
Laos
Lebanon
Lesotho
Liberia
Libya
Malawi
Malaysia
Mauritania
Mongolia
Morocco
Myanmar
Nigeria
Oman
Pakistan
Palestinian Authority
Philippines
Qatar
Russian Federation
Rwanda
St Christopher
Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Saudi Arabia
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Somalia
Sudan
Swaziland
Syria
Tadzhikistan
Taiwan
Tajikstan
Tanzania
Thailand
Trinidad and Tobago
Tunisia
Turkmenistan
Uganda
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
U.S.A.
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Yemen
Yugoslavia
(Fed. Republic of)
Zaire
Zambia
Zimbabwe
Another 23 Countries have the death penalty but have not executed anyone during the past 10 years or more, or in that they have made an international commitment not to carry out executions.
Albania
Bermuda
Bhutan
Brunei Darussalam
Burundi
Central African Republic
Congo
Cote DÕivoire
Djibouti
Gambia
Grenada
Madagascar
Maldives
Mali
Nauru
Niger
Papua New Guinea
Senegal
Sri Lanka
Suriname
Togo
Tonga
Turkey
Western Samoa
And yet another 14 Countries provide for the death penalty
for exceptional crimes such as crimes under military law or during wartime.
Argentina
Bolivia
Bosnia-Herzegovina
Brazil
Cook Islands
Cyprus
El Salvador
Fiji
Israel
Latvia
Malta
Mexico
Peru
Seychelles
The total number of Countries that have abolished the DP is 68
Andorra
Angola
Australia
Austria
Azerbaijan
Belgium
Bulgaria
Cambodia
Canada
Cape Verde
Colombia
Costa Rica
Croatia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Dominican Republic
Ecuador
Estonia
Finland
France
Georgia
Germany
Greece
Guinea-Bissau
Haiti
Honduras
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Kiribati
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Marshall Islands
Mauritius
Micronesia (Federated States)
Moldova
Monaco
Mozambique
Namibia
Nepal
Netherlands
New Zealand
Nicaragua
Norway
Palau
Panama
Paraguay
Poland
Portugal
Romania
San Marino
Sao Tome and Principe
Slovakia
Slovenia
Solomon Islands
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Tuvalu
United Kingdom
Uruguay
Vanuatu
Vatican City State
Venezuela
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