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Old April 13th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #1
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I was at a business establishment today, and saw a flag very much like this one flying from their flagpole. Anyone have any thoughts (I'll post my in a bit)?

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Old April 13th, 2008, 04:15 PM   #2
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I guess it would depend to me if this establishment was not Native land or not.
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Old April 13th, 2008, 05:28 PM   #3
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Old April 13th, 2008, 08:06 PM   #4
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Old April 13th, 2008, 08:13 PM   #5
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Def Dont like it!
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Old April 13th, 2008, 08:13 PM   #6
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I guess it would depend to me if this establishment was not Native land or not.
Nope. Morristown, AZ
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Old April 13th, 2008, 08:25 PM   #7
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Here's my deal.

1. I actively oppose a constitutional amendment banning any flag desecration.

2. I strongly support a person's right to display a flag like this, wear flag ties, display a flag with a swastika where the stars should go, or douse it in gasoline to burn it.


All that being said, I really find flying an altered flag in place of a real flag offensive, and I really don't like it. It sends a pretty negative message of the person's patriotism, I think, although that may well not be fair on my part. Additionally, for the purpose of this flag, I think I would be REALLY offended if I were a Native American, as this is the flag that so dramatically changed their lives.

Now it may be the veteran in me that is offended in all this... I am not sure. But it most certainly is offensive to me and I had difficulty not "having a little chat about it" with the business owner .... but I moved on.
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Old April 13th, 2008, 09:38 PM   #8
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I am on the fence on this one but since I am sure it is more of a political statement about the Native American, freedom of speech trumps an American symbol no matter how much I might find it offensive. As long as it is not the flag I salute, it should not bother me.
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I've never been got worked up about flags either in the US or when I was in the UK.

I know many do but I could never understand it.
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I care more about the first amendment than I do the flag.
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I guess I don't see the issue? All I see is a flag an American Indian might fly. I see it as a pride thing saying I'm Indian AND I'm an American. Looks Patriotic to me. I don't see a political statement. I see pride in heritage and country. Old and new I guess.
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I guess I don't see the issue? All I see is a flag an American Indian might fly. I see it as a pride thing saying I'm Indian AND I'm an American. Looks Patriotic to me. I don't see a political statement. I see pride in heritage and country. Old and new I guess.
My issue is that I'm a traditionalist. You just don't mess with the flag. If it's a patriotic statement they're trying to make, I would personally prefer it done with an American flag being flown with a separate one of the Native American underneath, preferably smaller.

To me, the American Flag is first & foremost; all else should be secondary.

The ironic part in all of this is that I am amongst those that feel we stole this country from the Native Americans, and am ashamed of what we've done with it.
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The ironic part in all of this is that I am amongst those that feel we stole this country from the Native Americans, and am ashamed of what we've done with it.
Every country has a past like that. At some point, you have to look past that.........
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Every country has a past like that. At some point, you have to look past that.........
Yeah, I know. That's why I'm torn on it, but the USA in me won out.
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