Flag Question - Page 2

GreenCard · April 14th, 2008, 11:04 AM

They are using that flag like a smoke signal. It's a message to Louis and his wife that they love them and want them to come home.

KloD · April 14th, 2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Linderbee

My issue is that I'm a traditionalist. You just don't mess with the flag. If it's a patriotic statement they're trying to make, I would personally prefer it done with an American flag being flown with a separate one of the Native American underneath, preferably smaller.

To me, the American Flag is first & foremost; all else should be secondary.

The ironic part in all of this is that I am amongst those that feel we stole this country from the Native Americans, and am ashamed of what we've done with it.

I don't see it as a political statement. These people aren't selling them as such. LINK

But if we are going to go with tradition trumps all and we want to ask that everyone speak the native language, as Steve Martin once said.. time to break out the Apache flag and learn that language.

Mulli · April 14th, 2008, 11:07 AM

Here is a topic for you: Did we steal the land from them or did we win it via one long war.

Yes, we treated them beyond horribly, but, for example, the French and English did that to each other for years.

I am sure many on here will hate me for this, but certain tribes were friendly to the English in the Revolutionary and the War of 1812. They picked the wrong side.

Linderbee · April 14th, 2008, 11:12 AM

You said:

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Originally Posted by KloD

Looks Patriotic to me.

Which is why I said:

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Originally Posted by Linderbee

If it's a patriotic statement they're trying to make...

Then you said:

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Originally Posted by KloD

I don't see it as a political statement.

I never said it was intended as a political statement...I was going with your "It looks patriotic..."

We'd need to pick which Native American language we'd want to use, and we all know no one would ever agree on THAT.

Linderbee · April 14th, 2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulli

Here is a topic for you: Did we steal the land from them or did we win it via one long war.

Yes, we treated them beyond horribly, but, for example, the French and English did that to each other for years.

I am sure many on here will hate me for this, but certain tribes were friendly to the English in the Revolutionary and the War of 1812. They picked the wrong side.

I feel stole it, more than won it.

We knew what we were doing from the get-go. They didn't. Had they known & cooperated with each other, I'd imagine they'd have stomped the hell out of us in the beginning & we wouldn't have come back right away. It was inevitable, though. Equipment/technology would have won out.

I just don't like that part of our history at all. The thanks they got for welcoming us in...ugh.

AzCards21 · April 14th, 2008, 11:18 AM

Don't like it at all.

KloD · April 14th, 2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Linderbee

You said:
Which is why I said:

Then you said:

I never said it was intended as a political statement...I was going with your "It looks patriotic..."

We'd need to pick which Native American language we'd want to use, and we all know no one would ever agree on THAT.

I know, I'm just giving my 2 cents is all. I understand your position, just don't share it.

Rivercard · April 14th, 2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamcastrocks

Every country has a past like that. At some point, you have to look past that.........

Ah yes, the great massacres of the Icelandic nomads.

Rivercard · April 14th, 2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulli

Did we steal the land from them or did we win it via one long war.

When you were in school, did the school bully "win" your lunch money?

Rivercard · April 14th, 2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nidan

I've never been got worked up about flags either in the US or when I was in the UK.

I know many do but I could never understand it.

Jughead · April 14th, 2008, 11:36 AM

Not bothered by that flag - there are so many possible messages behind the depiction that whatever inteaded artistic meaning is simply lost in translation.