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Old May 3rd, 2004, 06:20 PM   #1
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Energy...Or A Lack Thereof


I have heard some statements made over oil and energy.

One in pirticular about the fact that demand for oil is increasing along with the amount of oil we are supplied with.

Well this article is actually pretty intresting.

http://www.npg.org/specialreports/bartlett_index.htm

[Don't read Section 1]

It was written during the energy crisis and has been updated. It provides some insight into our current status in the history of life.

It is actually pretty scary and shows how we are in a crossroads in history.
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Old May 3rd, 2004, 06:47 PM   #2
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One in pirticular about the fact that demand for oil is increasing along with the amount of oil we are supplied with.
Well, wouldn't it make sense that as the population of the US increases so does our consumption of oil?
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Old May 3rd, 2004, 07:18 PM   #3
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We are at a crossroads Arthur and if we don't do something shortly, we will completely deplete the worlds' energy supplies and then be in a real pickle.

We are testing hydrogen power cells right now and they are the most promising new energy source we have at this date. They are fueled by hydrogen of which we have an abundant supply and the only bi-product is water. Any combustion engine being driven by gas right now (vehicles, generators, etc.) can be replaced by these fuel cells. They are light weight, small and adaptable. They create electricity so your next alternate fueled car will be an electric car driven by one of these fuel cells. No heavy batteries or CO2 spewing out of the exhaust, only fresh, clean water (H2O).

The hold-ups right now are the oil lobbying groups, a need to reduce the size of the cell, and a cheap, efficient way to convert air or water into straight hydrogen to fuel the cell.
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Old May 3rd, 2004, 07:21 PM   #4
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Well, wouldn't it make sense that as the population of the US increases so does our consumption of oil?
That didn't come out right....

I meant no matter how much oil we get our needs are exponentially increasing. Thus, the oil in the world is exponentially decreasing. The population is also exponentially increasing.


It's pretty scary when you consider how much time we will have oil if consumption and pop growth continue at their present rate!
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Old May 3rd, 2004, 07:25 PM   #5
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We are at a crossroads Arthur and if we don't do something shortly, we will completely deplete the worlds' energy supplies and then be in a real pickle.

We are testing hydrogen power cells right now and they are the most promising new energy source we have at this date. They are fueled by hydrogen of which we have an abundant supply and the only bi-product is water. Any combustion engine being driven by gas right now (vehicles, generators, etc.) can be replaced by these fuel cells. They are light weight, small and adaptable. They create electricity so your next alternate fueled car will be an electric car driven by one of these fuel cells. No heavy batteries or CO2 spewing out of the exhaust, only fresh, clean water (H2O).

The hold-ups right now are the oil lobbying groups, a need to reduce the size of the cell, and a cheap, efficient way to convert air or water into straight hydrogen to fuel the cell.
Cool!

I read in some magazine an article about Hydrogen cell powered cars. They look pretty neat! (especially the view as the prototype has the winsheild going down to the floor)
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The hold-ups right now are the oil lobbying groups

And that right there tells you exactly why fuel cells are not in production yet. They work, they are efficient, they are proven.
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Well, wouldn't it make sense that as the population of the US increases so does our consumption of oil?
Uh, maybe we are talking " per capita ".
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Uh, maybe we are talking " per capita ".
I've always wondered...what is 'per capita'?
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....No heavy batteries or CO2 spewing out of the exhaust, only fresh, clean water (H2O)...
Well at least our roads will be clean!
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