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Dramatic shift in strategy for the Democrat party.
No news headlines for this thread. Just an idea that I talked about with my bro Redrage.
The Democratic Party has shown (IMO) that it doesn't represent some of the base values of many Americans in the past elections. It has lost twice to what has proven to be an incompetent White House.
To me as a military guy, this shows that a dramatic change in strategy is needed. What strategy would you change? I'll post some of my changes later, some of them pretty different from the past Democrat stances.
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No news headlines for this thread. Just an idea that I talked about with my bro Redrage.
The Democratic Party has shown (IMO) that it doesn't represent some of the base values of many Americans in the past elections. It has lost twice to what has proven to be an incompetent White House.
To me as a military guy, this shows that a dramatic change in strategy is needed. What strategy would you change? I'll post some of my changes later, some of them pretty different from the past Democrat stances.
Simple. Quit running far left blue bloods who are out of touch with the American people and run a down to earth, likeable person who can identify with us common folk (like Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter). If they would pick another southern boy with charm and wit, they would win handily. This goes against the grain of the elite who have hijacked this party however. In their arrogance, they don't realize that anyone exists outside of the northern east coast area.
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Simple. Quit running far left blue bloods who are out of touch with the American people and run a down to earth, likeable person who can identify with us common folk (like Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter). If they would pick another southern boy with charm and wit, they would win handily. This goes against the grain of the elite who have hijacked this party however. In their arrogance, they don't realize that anyone exists outside of the northern east coast area.
Once again, what makes you think that these guys are far left. What specific policies do you find so far outside of the mainstream?
I'd drop vocal support of gun control and tell certain groups interested in identity politics to wait their turn in line.
On the military front I'd develop a strategy that focused first and foremeost on protecting the lives of our troops and then on their quality of life. Strip money from some big ticket items such as SDI and reevaluate all spending priorities based on what benefits the soldiers on the ground and what is relevent to fight enemies of the 21st century.
I'd quit bashing corporate America, only in a round about way. No Democrat would ever use the words "corporate america" in a pejorative sense. Dems instead would run against "the Ken Lays of this world." This would be a code word for the party faithful but would be viewed as a stab against specific corporate crooks by the rest.
I'd get mean, don't fight with one hand tied behind your back. Sling mud more often and let the other side get a real dose of their own medecine. So what if Jon Kyle is a "moral man." I'd through all I could against the wall hoping something would stick. People like JD Hayworth I'd hit with a full court press. Paint him as ineffective, incompetent, and tainted.
Run as fiscally responsible, not fiscally conservative but responsible. Shift spending priorities and limit pork. Develop quality assessment metrics for government agencies and programs which borrow liberally from the principles established by the "quality movement."
Regain that "vision thing." George the first didn't get it but his son does. Despite everything I've written, people care more about vision than programs.
Don't talk about bringing the boys home from Iraq. Paint the picture of a soldier reunited with his family. That's really a big problem with the Dems these days, the need to get back to presenting a compelling narative.
Simple. Quit running far left blue bloods who are out of touch with the American people and run a down to earth, likeable person who can identify with us common folk (like Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter). If they would pick another southern boy with charm and wit, they would win handily. This goes against the grain of the elite who have hijacked this party however. In their arrogance, they don't realize that anyone exists outside of the northern east coast area.
Do you really relate to Dubya?
I don't think I've ever seen a more pompous elitist in the public eye.
The big thing that I hear from most soldiers is the gun issue. It's a losing battle, especially in the red states and with many who are more liberal, but love guns.
Also, no offense meant to some posters: Gay rights issues are killing the Democratic party. America just isn't ready for many of these issues, and we're losing many important battles.
No news headlines for this thread. Just an idea that I talked about with my bro Redrage.
The Democratic Party has shown (IMO) that it doesn't represent some of the base values of many Americans in the past elections. It has lost twice to what has proven to be an incompetent White House.
To me as a military guy, this shows that a dramatic change in strategy is needed. What strategy would you change? I'll post some of my changes later, some of them pretty different from the past Democrat stances.
This is my perspective - granted its an outside opinion looking into the Democratic house. The reality of the political landscape is that while the republican party is desperate enough to hand out $100 checks...there is no evidence that the voting public is really sliding over to the Democratic party. In fact, their popularity numbers are so low...they are quite comparable with ex-Enron executives.
Democrats will not like to hear this - but they are not gaining much ground when the topic "national security” is raised...sure they may make some political points here and there - but they seem to be short lived with not enough traction to get anyones attention.
While that alone won't make much of a difference in this years off-year election - in the 2008 presidential race, those vulnerabilities will surface.
When I see the Democratic party try and drive Joe Lieberman out because of his perspective on National Security (Iraq/Iran) - I believe it sends a message that the democrats have no room for someone with "hawkish" views in their own party (regardless if they have a lifetime liberal voting record).
I believe the Democrats really need an individual like an American version of a Tony Blair (lol...in fact so do the republicans). No...I don't believe Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid even come close to being that version.
Once again, what makes you think that these guys are far left. What specific policies do you find so far outside of the mainstream?
I'd drop vocal support of gun control and tell certain groups interested in identity politics to wait their turn in line.
On the military front I'd develop a strategy that focused first and foremeost on protecting the lives of our troops and then on their quality of life. Strip money from some big ticket items such as SDI and reevaluate all spending priorities based on what benefits the soldiers on the ground and what is relevent to fight enemies of the 21st century.
I'd quit bashing corporate America, only in a round about way. No Democrat would ever use the words "corporate america" in a pejorative sense. Dems instead would run against "the Ken Lays of this world." This would be a code word for the party faithful but would be viewed as a stab against specific corporate crooks by the rest.
I'd get mean, don't fight with one hand tied behind your back. Sling mud more often and let the other side get a real dose of their own medecine. So what if Jon Kyle is a "moral man." I'd through all I could against the wall hoping something would stick. People like JD Hayworth I'd hit with a full court press. Paint him as ineffective, incompetent, and tainted.
Run as fiscally responsible, not fiscally conservative but responsible. Shift spending priorities and limit pork. Develop quality assessment metrics for government agencies and programs which borrow liberally from the principles established by the "quality movement."
Regain that "vision thing." George the first didn't get it but his son does. Despite everything I've written, people care more about vision than programs.
Don't talk about bringing the boys home from Iraq. Paint the picture of a soldier reunited with his family. That's really a big problem with the Dems these days, the need to get back to presenting a compelling narative.
I could go on for hours....
You don't consider Kerry, Gore and Dean far left? Who else has been the face of this party?
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“So I became a newspaperman. I hated to do it but I couldn’t find honest employment.” —Mark Twain
I don't think I've ever seen a more pompous elitist in the public eye.
In your eyes maybe, but middle America sees him as a down to earth type who mangles the English language. But this thread isn't about GW, it's about the Demos and their quest for the Holy Grail.
What do you think they need to do?
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“So I became a newspaperman. I hated to do it but I couldn’t find honest employment.” —Mark Twain
In your eyes maybe, but middle America sees him as a down to earth type who mangles the English language. But this thread isn't about GW, it's about the Demos and their quest for the Holy Grail.
What do you think they need to do?
lol...I'm saying they need a Tony Blair...yer saying they need a Jethro Bodine.
In your eyes maybe, but middle America sees him as a down to earth type who mangles the English language. But this thread isn't about GW, it's about the Demos and their quest for the Holy Grail.
True, it just struck me that anyone could relate to any of these people, not just the current headcases leading the democrat party.
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Originally Posted by 40yearfan
What do you think they need to do?
I really don't know 40? Neither party has anyone that I feel should be president at this point. Admittedly, I am so sick of what we have I would take just about anything else, but nobody stands out to me from either side.
Neither party has anyone that I feel should be president at this point. Admittedly, I am so sick of what we have I would take just about anything else, but nobody stands out to me from either side.
This is pretty much what my feelings are... We have no worries that what we currently have will be back in it's same form anyway... I also see no one on the horizon that I would even think about going to the polls to support...
I have never opted out of the presidential election since I came of age, depending on how this plays out, this my be the first time I go with Brewster and pick "None of the Above"...
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