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Old July 1st, 2003, 08:32 AM   #1
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Does the US have an obligation to intervene in Liberia?


Background - Liberia was founded in 1822 by freed U.S. slaves. During the late 1800's when the rest of Africa was colonized by Europe, the US made sure Liberia remained independent.
Liberia has been racked by civil war, and is basically in a state of anarchy. Given the long ties between Liberia and the US, do we have an obligation to lead an international peace keeping force into Liberia?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/africa...jvt/index.html

I would say yes. Liberia is an American responsibility even today.
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Old July 1st, 2003, 09:17 AM   #2
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I agree.

If we went to Iraq to "free the people from tyranny" as the current WMD-less administration is trying to claim, we can not ignore other countries' problems.

But of course, there's probably no money in going to Liberia, so I would say that there is no chance in hell we will ever go there.

America has consistently fought in wars that have had the potential to benefit us, regardless of political slant of the administration at the time .
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Old July 2nd, 2003, 12:47 PM   #3
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I am going to agree with you two.
If going to Iraq was justified, then going to Liberia is our duty.
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Old July 3rd, 2003, 09:46 AM   #4
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The USA has been intervening with the affairs of Liberia since the country's begining. The real question is does the USA have an obligation to force their intervention on Liberia? Yes, they do.
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Old July 6th, 2003, 01:45 PM   #5
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How any of you can compare what was done in Iraq and what was happening in Iraq to Liberia is really pretty funny.

With that said I think that we should go into Liberia and help sustain some peace!
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Old July 6th, 2003, 03:23 PM   #6
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How any of you can compare what was done in Iraq and what was happening in Iraq to Liberia is really pretty funny.

With that said I think that we should go into Liberia and help sustain some peace!
How is it funny Shane?

Without WMDs the reason for going to Iraq, would be the same reason used to go to Liberia. At least with Liberia, there is a strong historical bond between our countries.
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Old July 6th, 2003, 04:52 PM   #7
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How is it funny Shane?

Without WMDs the reason for going to Iraq, would be the same reason used to go to Liberia. At least with Liberia, there is a strong historical bond between our countries.
The reasons are far from the same.

1. Our countries like you said have a very long and historical bond with one another(my main reason for helping)

2. Liberia is not a terrorist state. They dont pramote it nor harbor them. There govt. as a whole isnt evil. They are having a a hard time getting a stable one in place.

3. They are in the middle of a civil war. Iraq was run by a mercilous dictator. Hardly the same issue!

4. Our troops if sent in wouldnt be doing nearly the same thing they did in Iraq. It would merely be a small peace keeping force of less than a thousand soldiers the last I read. Most of the peacekeepers coming from other African countries.

5. There are WMD in Iraq. Time will prove you wrong if they havent already http://arizonasportsfans.com/vb/show...threadid=12158
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Old July 6th, 2003, 05:42 PM   #8
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The reasons are far from the same.

1. Our countries like you said have a very long and historical bond with one another(my main reason for helping)

2. Liberia is not a terrorist state. They dont pramote it nor harbor them. There govt. as a whole isnt evil. They are having a a hard time getting a stable one in place.

And Iraq is? General Wesley Clark was asked by Bush to say that Iraq had terrorist ties....without any evidence. Is there really any to this day? Not much. And the whole "Iraq is evil" argument could easily be applied to the current regime in power in Liberia. The President of Liberia (or whatever title he has) has been convicted of war crimes.

3. They are in the middle of a civil war. Iraq was run by a mercilous dictator. Hardly the same issue!

Hmm.....There leader was convicted of war crimes...sounds like a merciless dictator to me.

4. Our troops if sent in wouldnt be doing nearly the same thing they did in Iraq. It would merely be a small peace keeping force of less than a thousand soldiers the last I read. Most of the peacekeepers coming from other African countries.

This I can agree with.

5. There are WMD in Iraq. Time will prove you wrong if they havent already

I haven't said there aren't WMDs; I said there is no proof. Not exactly saying there aren't WMDs (I actually believe there are WMDs, though the threat is vastly overblown)

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I wonder if people will be happy 30 years from now with the outcome in Iraq.

2 things could happen that could actually be worse than having Saddam in power 1) a Islamic Fundamentalist State. 2) Constant Civil war.
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I wonder if people will be happy 30 years from now with the outcome in Iraq.

2 things could happen that could actually be worse than having Saddam in power 1) a Islamic Fundamentalist State. 2) Constant Civil war.
Or it just might be a fully operational and smoothly running democratic state. It is to early to tell. There may be civil war in Iraq before all is said and done but civil war isnt necessarily a bad thing is it?
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Or it just might be a fully operational and smoothly running democratic state. It is to early to tell. There may be civil war in Iraq before all is said and done but civil war isnt necessarily a bad thing is it?
It definitely is way too early to tell what will happen, but I seriously doubt the people of Iraq will accept a US instituted govt.

A civil war would leave a serious power vacuum, in which any wacko could step in and take power.
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