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Do you believe Corn Ethanol to be a good/viable economic replacemet for fossil fuel?
Just curious what people think? Do you think it is clean like they say? Do you belive like all the candidates preach that we need to explore it as an alternative fuel option?
I found out many surprising facts about it last night.
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From what little research I have done, I have found it to be another federal government subsidized project that will be a complete failure.
Engineering cars that get 50+ mpg of fossil fuels is the way to go. The government has dropped the ball numerous times by not passing tough enough restrictions and even suing states that enacted stronger standards.
From what little research I have done, I have found it to be another federal government subsidized project that will be a complete failure.
Engineering cars that get 50+ mpg of fossil fuels is the way to go. The government has dropped the ball numerous times by not passing tough enough restrictions and even suing states that enacted stronger standards.
There's also a fair amount of debate and speculation about the impact on food prices... More corn used means more demand, means higher prices. And since corn is fed to cattle, beef prices have risen as well...
I honeslty have seen any formal studies that have been able to conclusively make this connection, however, where there's smoke...
There's also a fair amount of debate and speculation about the impact on food prices... More corn used means more demand, means higher prices. And since corn is fed to cattle, beef prices have risen as well...
I honeslty have seen any formal studies that have been able to conclusively make this connection, however, where there's smoke...
We're paying farmers NOT to farm. There are plenty of ways the government can get around rising crop costs...the first that comes to mind is get the hell out of the way.
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We're paying farmers NOT to farm. There are plenty of ways the government can get around rising crop costs...the first that comes to mind is get the hell out of the way.
Good to see all that Ron Paul reading has truely taken hold.
Just curious what people think? Do you think it is clean like they say? Do you belive like all the candidates preach that we need to explore it as an alternative fuel option?
I found out many surprising facts about it last night.
ethanol is not a viable alternative. whats sad is that there are so many other alternatives, yet our govt is pushing ethanol down our throats.
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Good to see all that Ron Paul reading has truely taken hold.
Ron Paul definately taught me about the limited govt philosophy.
Well what I found crazy was just how dirty it is to produce ethanol. It puts massive amounts of green house gasses in our atmosphere from the coal the use to make it.
It also sends toxic by-product into the rivers and down into the ocean which is creating a "dead aone" along the coast.
I dunno if thats what is in what Pariah posted but thats what was in the the show I watched last night. How any of these crooks try and tell us that this stuff is the answer is beyond me.
They also consulted an expert and stated that if we used every single ear of corn the US agriculture produced on this stuff that it would put only a 7% dent in to our consumption of fossil fuels.
Just say no to Ethanol!
They had clips of every single presidential candidate running in this election trying to prop this stuff up as "the answer"
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Biofuel ethanol is one possible short-to-intermediate term element for encouraging some de-petrolizing, but anything that requires agricultural farmland and lots of water and all those fertilizers and pesticides is stop-gap at best. (Of course if it helps delay us paving our vital upper-midwest farmland, that's a small but definite offset, believe it or not.) There are other forms of biofuel energy production that may not have nearly the adverse impact, and both Obama and McCain said so to Iowa corn farmers.
This one is 100% Con-Agra and Big Farm twisting the feds' arms, and they are the best buddies of the same guys who bring you genetically sterile seed crops, restricted genetic diversity, and high-nitrogen-demanding grains for third-world countries. The ones who were trying to patent botanical products used for a thousand years in India. They are not one whit different than Big Pharm, Big Oil, and and Big War.
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