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Old June 23rd, 2003, 07:37 AM   #1
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Ban on gay bias hailed by activists


Ban on gay bias hailed by activists
Governor's action affects state jobs

Katie Nelson
The Arizona Republic
Jun. 23, 2003 12:00 AM


Gay rights activists are celebrating a long-fought victory after Arizona's governor signed an executive order over the weekend denouncing sexual orientation discrimination against state employees.

"We're ecstatic," said Kathie Gummere, public affairs director for the Arizona Human Rights Fund. "It's one more step forward for us in gaining the rights that everyone else takes for granted."

Those in a 1,000-person crowd at the Human Rights Fund's annual dinner on Saturday night at the Arizona Biltmore enthusiastically received news of Gov. Janet Napolitano's 20th executive order, which singlehandedly made it illegal for the state to hire, fire, promote or discipline any state employee based on the individual's sexual orientation.

For at least five years, the Human Rights Fund, a gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender support organization, has unsuccessfully tried to encourage similar legislation because of the high number of complaints about workplace bias.

"I hear from at least one person a week who feels like they were discriminated against in the workplace," Gummere said.

But while Napolitano's announcement got four standing ovations from supporters, not everyone is applauding.

"She's governing like she's a Third World dictator; it's ridiculous," said Len Munsil, president of the Center for Arizona Policy, a conservative Christian organization.

The Center for Arizona Policy has been instrumental in lobbying to block equal opportunity law language changes in the past. Now the group plans to look at ways to reverse the order, Munsil said.

"If one governor can put it in, the next can rescind it," he said. "It's a total outrage that she would do something that the Legislature has specifically refused to do year after year. It's not something the people of Arizona support."

Yet the Legislature's representative abilities, or lack thereof, are part of the reason that sexual orientation hasn't been made a protected class in the past, said Robert Meza, an openly gay Democrat who is a member of the state House and the Arizona Human Rights Fund.

"The current legislation is not a true reflection of Arizonans," he said. "Decisions are being made by a group of people who selectively don't include children, education, the elderly - Janet is worrying about all the people."

Thus he believes Napolitano's decision to bypass the Legislature was a smart one.

"It's getting people from around the world to take a look at Arizona," Meza said. "It's about economics too. Seeing diversity within states and the realization that people here are that much more progressive. That's what attracts intellectuals and big businesses."

Arizona is one of 12 states, 115 cities and the District of Columbia to outlaw this kind of job discrimination. Phoenix approved a similar law in 1992, and Tucson followed with its own law in 1997.

"This is truly a new Arizona, one that's equal-opportunity for all, not just for a few," said Tim Nelson, general counsel for the governor.
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Old June 23rd, 2003, 07:48 AM   #2
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It shouldn't even be an issue. I think in Florida it's still legal to dixcriminate against someone for being gay. That makes me sick. How can you say it's ok to hate someone or deny them a job or anything because of their sexual preference? I can't stand these groups that try to deny people their rights because of their sexual orientation, religion or any other belief.
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Old June 23rd, 2003, 07:52 AM   #3
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It shouldn't even be an issue. I think in Florida it's still legal to dixcriminate against someone for being gay. That makes me sick. How can you say it's ok to hate someone or deny them a job or anything because of their sexual preference? I can't stand these groups that try to deny people their rights because of their sexual orientation, religion or any other belief.
It's solely the religious rightwing, that thinks it's ok.

I wonder what Jesus would think about that?
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It's solely the religious rightwing, that thinks it's ok.

I wonder what Jesus would think about that?
Yeah, whatever happened to "love thy neighbor?"

You wouldn't believe the people we've got here in Florida. We're not as "Deep South" as our neighbors because of all the transplants (like me ) but Florida is still stuck in the bible belt. Every year there is "gay days" at Disney. Do you guys ever hear about this? Did you hear when what's-his-name said we were going to be destroyed by meteors? Great people, huh? Death to all who don't think like I do! God will smite you!
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Yeah, whatever happened to "love thy neighbor?"

You wouldn't believe the people we've got here in Florida. We're not as "Deep South" as our neighbors because of all the transplants (like me ) but Florida is still stuck in the bible belt. Every year there is "gay days" at Disney. Do you guys ever hear about this? Did you hear when what's-his-name said we were going to be destroyed by meteors? Great people, huh? Death to all who don't think like I do! God will smite you!
Are you refering to Falwell?

I'm a southern boy at heart. My family all lives in the "bible belt" and the attitudes of some in that area is absolutely sickening.

My family are all Southern Baptists, but my mother and father left the church when the right wing fundamentalists took over. My parents are now Methodists. Methodists are much more liberal; I went to one service where the pastor talked about accepting gay members into the church and that their sexual preference was not wrong.
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It was actually Pat Robertson that made those threats - he said that God would send hurricanes to destroy Orlando.

Ironically, that year, no hurricanes came ashore on the central Florida coast, but several came ashore near Virginia Beach, where Robertson lives and his companies are based.
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...oh man, I just got a flash back of Coyote Tony's view on gays, his hatred and prejudice
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Anyone hear the new song by The Eagles called Hole in the World? Fantastic lyrics about trying to get along in the world. It's more about religion and war than anything, but I thought this was a good place to bring it up.
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Coyote Tony reminded me of this old Bobcat Goldwaithe skit.

"Hey, you look gay."~some guy

"No, I am not gay"~Bobcat

"Come here you. I am kickin yer gay ass"~same guy

Bobcat punches his fist a few times to show this guy beating him up.

"Take that you damn fag."

*punch punch punch*

"That's what you get you damn fag"

*punch punch punch*

"You know your kinda cute for a fag...stay here and keep hitting him Zed, I gotta go use the bathroom for a few minutes"
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It was actually Pat Robertson that made those threats - he said that God would send hurricanes to destroy Orlando.

Ironically, that year, no hurricanes came ashore on the central Florida coast, but several came ashore near Virginia Beach, where Robertson lives and his companies are based.
The funny thing is i don't think we've had ANY hurricanes near us since then. Of course we don't get hurricanes in central Florida because of the gulf stream (hence the location of Kennedy Space Center) so if Orlando did get destroyed by one it would probably be an act of God.
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