Brian in Mesa

It's my Dad's birthday today and when I talked to him a little earlier today, he told me he thought the grenade attack on soldiers in Kuwait was done by one of ours.

My Dad is a Vietnam veteran, but he NEVER talks about what happened over there during his time. Needless to say, I was shocked when he told me about incidents that happened in Nam.

He said disgruntled soldiers (disgruntled grunts...) used to toss a grenade into an officers tent if they didn't like him, then sometimes shoot the officer if he made it out of the tent.

I just heard on CBS that they arrested an engineer who was injured and hiding in a bunker at the camp. Apparently he became a suspect after it was discovered that 4 grenades were missing from an area he had access to.

__________________
HONEY BADGER DON'T CARE

Dan H

He is a Muslim-American according to CNN.

__________________
"To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association--'the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.'" - Thomas Jefferson

NMCard

apprantly their is 1 US black muslim soldier unaccounted for so it is not very good news.


(CBS) Ten U.S. soldiers were injured, six or seven of them seriously, in a grenade and small arms attack at Camp Pennsylvania in northern Kuwait, reports CBS News Correspondent Mark Strassmann, who is traveling with the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division.

Strassmann said the grenades were rolled into two commanders' tents at the camp. When officers ran from the tents, they were hit by small arms fire.

"From our reports it appears that a terrorist penetrated Camp Pennsylvania, one or more terrorists threw two hand grenades into a tent," said George Heath, spokesman at Fort Campbell, home base of the 101st.

Strassman said three suspects were being held for questioning, two Kuwaitis who served a translators and an American soldier described as a black Muslim.

The injured soldiers were rushed to a field hospital but military officials had no word on their conditions, Lt. Cmdr. Charles Owens said from Camp As Sayliyah in Qatar.

The military did not identify the unit of the 101st that was in the camp but said it had been in Kuwait for about one week. Most of the division has entered southern Iraq.

Separately, Strassmann reported, an Iraqi rocket fired at U.S. forces in Kuwait was destroyed by Patriot missiles launched from nearby Camp New Jersey.

The terror and missile attack came as the U.S. assault on Iraq gained steam. American and British forces besieged the southern city of Basra and pounded Baghdad with impunity. But tough fighting loomed for coalition troops as they pressed deeper into Iraq

Lefty

Maybe they should put that guy in front of a firing squad.

schutd

Wha?!?!?! Is it me or do emotions run abnormally high during times of conflict? Put him in front of the firing squad??? Maybe we should let Saddam run for President in 04 then... Sheesh.

WizardOfAz

Who was this guy's CO?

Lefty

The guy killed an American. He needs to be sentenced to death. I am so sick of all these bleeding anti-American liberal people who don't believe in the death penalty.

Brian in Mesa

I'll be the second to say it, in a slightly different way - The soldier responsible for the death of one soldier and the injuries to 15 others...SHOULD BE SHOT.

Treason in a time of war is unacceptible.

__________________
HONEY BADGER DON'T CARE

schutd

You are truly hilarious. Get over yourself. There are so many flaws in that statement and in your childish logic I don't know where to start. But Ill try:

I'm not Anti-Death Penalty. IAM against inhumane death penalty, of which this country determined that "death by firing squad" is.

Im also for a speedy and fair trial as guaranteed in the US constitution.

Also, he is ACCUSED of killing an American. Lets let our justice system deal with him. Not some gung ho kill em all ash*le such as yourself.

And if you call me anti-American one more time as a means of trying to discredit me, Ill kick the sh*t of you (if only I had the geographic capability to do so). And I havent threatened violence on anyone since I was about 14 years old.

They say never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience. Congrats for dragging me down, cause you truly are an idiot.

schutd

Well duh. Treason at any time is unacceptable. The rabid nature of you people is pretty terrifying actually. Apparently in your vehemiently (self stated) Pro-American stances about this war, you are all more than willing to throw out EVERY TENET OF THE CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS which is what you all say we are supposedly over there fighting for in the first place. Y'all are a total joke. And the irony is so laughable Im nearly doubled over.

I honestly lose sleep now over not only the fighting thats going on, and the death and the destruction of human life, but of the completely f*cking assinine opinions I find expressed here. I hope and pray that some of you represent only a small fraction of the general populice's opinions about this stuff. Cause if you are the majority I'm truly scared for the future. You all are so blinded by this "Go kick ass!" attitude, that you are completely forgetting about wat makes it so great to be an american in the first place.

Absolutely sickening.

Shane

If it makes you that sick then dont come here. Actually Im quite certain that a majority of Americans would have no problem lining that idiot up in front of a firing line and executing him.

Thats the difference between civil law and military law the constitutuion really has no bearing during a time of war. Military members are under a whole different set of rules governing there actions and its called the Uniformed Code of Miltary Justice. Many of the rights that soldiers had as civilians no longer exist. Especially during a time of armed conflict. Many if not all solidiers know that during war treason or desertion is punishable by death.

The guy had quite obviously admitted doing it and even gave his reasons for committing such a horrific act on his own. That is Treason at a time of war causing the death of fellow soldiers and seriously wounding others. That is unacceptable and he should be executed on the spot! The only way that guy comes home should be in a bodybag!

Sorry that your bleeding heart cant stand the idea of that!

Oh yea that poor poor Asan Akbar I really feel for him????

maddogkf

Does it matter that this guy was supposedly of Middle-eastern descent?

Maybe he had an agenda from the beginning. I agree tto let the military courts take care of this one and let the verdict stand.

If it is true and he is found guilty by a court martial, then he deserves the firing squad.

__________________

maddogkf

I was wrong when I said before the soldier was mid-east descent. Anyways, this was planned and impleneted, execution style. They roll grenades into the tent then open fire on the unsuspecting victims? Military courts should decide this & hopefully they are firing squad fodder.

__________________

schutd

YEAH! Rid these boards of all dissenting opinions! that would prove we're right!:

And YEAH! let the right wing slander continue! Why is it that you guys INSIST on applying generalized socio-political sterotypes on people who don't agree with you? Is it SOLELY to associate yourselves to one another? Cause the name calling certainly doesnt have any effect on its intended target. Its like you guys use the name calling like a pi$$ing dog. Marking your territory so others of your same ilk will know that you're down for the cause or whatever. Its laughable.

I won't leave these boards. Someone here needs to keep you lunatics in line.

But more on topic: Look, I suppose I have no problem with the military courts giving this accused murderer his due process and I have no problem with those same courts doling out the harshest penalty prescribed by law if and when he is found guilty. If its REALLY death by firing squad, then I guess I will have to fight that battle elsewhere, cause if its currently the law, then the law needs to be fought. but again my "bleeding heart" may have a tad bit more humanity in it than yours so we'll have to agreeto disagree on the penalty I suppose.

This guy (and Im assuming he's guilty, cause he ure as hell appears to be) is CLEARLY a treasonist and a complete a$$hole and should be punished as severely as possible. IM not against that. I just get nervous when the villagers break out the pitchforks and the nooses and start calling for heads before they let the law take its due course. And thats precisely how you guys sound. If not, fine, I misenterpreted things. But judging from your word and perceived tone, can you really blame me?

maddogkf

I can understand each opinion going on here. Military courts are different than civil ones. I agree that due course must be used. That being said though, I feel that this may play out to be a huge ordeal...maybe a "terrorist mole" or something like that.

In any case it is a treasonous act.

__________________