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Old September 4th, 2008, 01:24 PM   #16
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I am thinking about getting this to use with my Creative Zen Vision M. Looks like a good solution, as long as I can verify that they are compatible.



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Old September 6th, 2008, 10:38 PM   #17
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I am thinking about getting this to use with my Creative Zen Vision M. Looks like a good solution, as long as I can verify that they are compatible.



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Ok, I have a question here, maybe I'm missing something..

That deck plays MP3 and WMA formats from CD. Why would you want to fumble with plugging in an external player when you can just throw a hundred or so songs on one CD and just play that?
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Old September 8th, 2008, 02:03 AM   #18
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100 or so songs on one cd?
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Old September 8th, 2008, 07:38 AM   #19
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100 or so songs on one cd?
Sure, you can fit a couple hundred MP3's on one CD maybe. My CD player plays MP3's.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 07:39 AM   #20
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Ok, I have a question here, maybe I'm missing something..

That deck plays MP3 and WMA formats from CD. Why would you want to fumble with plugging in an external player when you can just throw a hundred or so songs on one CD and just play that?
A lot of times it is easier than burning CDs. Especially when some people have gigs and gigs worth of music to look through.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 08:16 AM   #21
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Ok, I have a question here, maybe I'm missing something..

That deck plays MP3 and WMA formats from CD. Why would you want to fumble with plugging in an external player when you can just throw a hundred or so songs on one CD and just play that?
Ah, good question. I actually have video lectures that I want to listen to. I can download them to my Zen, but I want a way to play the audio through the car speakers. This seems like it would be the easiest and cheapest way to do this.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 09:25 PM   #22
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Ah, good question. I actually have video lectures that I want to listen to. I can download them to my Zen, but I want a way to play the audio through the car speakers. This seems like it would be the easiest and cheapest way to do this.
I have to admit.. that's a pretty good reason.

That deck looks pretty nice, should be really good for what you're looking to do.
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Sure, you can fit a couple hundred MP3's on one CD maybe. My CD player plays MP3's.
? What size CD? DVD, I could see, but CD? The most I ever fit on a cd was 21, I think.
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? What size CD? DVD, I could see, but CD? The most I ever fit on a cd was 21, I think.
Let's say you have a typical cd-r or cd-rw and you're going to use it to burn a collection of songs.

For this example let's use a 700MB/80 Min cd.

If you burn them as digital audio recordings (audio files) they are not compressed. Something like 30-35 MB each song - for the average 3 to 4 minute song - which is why you've only made cd's with about 21 songs before. Burning software starts with the maximum number of "minutes" you can fit and subtracts as you add audio tracks to your burn list. (While it displays the available minutes it is really using the file size to determine how much available space there is on the cd.)

MP3 format compresses a cd-quality song by a factor of 10 to 14 without noticeably affecting the sound. Now you are able to save a 32 MB audio file as a 3 MB data file.

So you could have 21 songs (700MB/32MB per song = 21.875) or 233 songs (700MB/3MB per song = 233.333) depending on which format you use.
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Thank you for the explanation...

but I've always burned mp3's to my cds...not wma files, or anything else (at least, to the best of my VERY poor memory). Unless Windows Media Player converted them to wma or something when it burned it...that would make sense. I was going to sit & do the math later on it...

It still doesn't totally add up to me, anyway...my daughter could never fit more than ~90 - 100 songs on her ipod shuffle (1 gb)

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Strange about the ipod. Should hold at least 240 songs.

Here is a bit about the Shuffle from wikipedia: The second generation shuffle can play MP3, MP3 VBR, AAC, Protected AAC, Audible (formats 2, 3 and 4), WAV and AIFF, meaning that the only iTunes format not supported is Apple Lossless. Note that using WAV or AIFF on a 1GB device will mean very few songs may be held. iPod Shuffle cannot play music from music video files, which by some users is unexpected (and if they based their iTunes library on music videos they have to purchase music files on top of that).

If she has those file types it would explain the lower number of songs.
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no, just mp3s...but it was a first gen, and (again, if memory serves) it only plays mp3s. BUT, I will say I'm pretty sure my avg. mp3 file is 5-7 MB, not 3.

Always hated that damn shuffle anyway.
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We have no ipods.

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We have no ipods.

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the shuffle was a gift to my daughter from her biological father, the first Christmas after he...ummm...was "made aware" of her. I'd have never bought it for her...it was important to her at the time, though.
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I use my GPS for music in my truck. I've got 20 gigs of music, plenty for me. It's right there in front of me w/ a touch screen. I used to use an Ipod, but I hated the cable floating around and didn't like trying to read the screen while I was driving. It also has bluetooth so I don't need to hold a phone if a call comes in. I love it, though I wish it made coffee too.
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