February 5th, 2004, 08:21 PM
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Woof!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Ahwatukee
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Anyone run a home wireless network?
I do, but I was too lazy to secure it. Found out later that one of my jackass neighbors within 1/4 mile of my house was piggybacking off my internet connection (don't know who - just another machine name showed up).
Anyway, I got it WEP secured, but does anyone know about MAC securing or additional measures I can take? I haven't found a good google result that speaks clearly.
(Please no stop speaking Chinese jokes) 
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February 5th, 2004, 08:39 PM
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Devil Me This
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: N. Peoria
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1/4 mile? Damn, that's some strong wi-fi you've got going there.
I run a G network, (Desktop/Laptop). Basically, plug and play. Absolutely love it.
Have you changed the default password? Linksys will just use Linksys as the password until you change it.
Don't know too much about my security, just try and make it a little difficult if they do try and peek inside.
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February 6th, 2004, 06:27 AM
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Connoisseur of the Obvious
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mesa, AZ
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Re: Anyone run a home wireless network?
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Originally posted by jw7
I do, but I was too lazy to secure it. Found out later that one of my jackass neighbors within 1/4 mile of my house was piggybacking off my internet connection (don't know who - just another machine name showed up).
Anyway, I got it WEP secured, but does anyone know about MAC securing or additional measures I can take? I haven't found a good google result that speaks clearly.
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Did you check to see if you had access to any files on his system before disconnecting?
Would have been a nice little bit of payback had you...well...you know...injected a virus into his system, or stole his porn...
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February 10th, 2004, 05:46 AM
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You think KFCs still open
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Sun Devil Stadium, Sect 27, Row 34, Seat 8
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Re: Re: Anyone run a home wireless network?
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Originally posted by Cardinals.Ken
Would have been a nice little bit of payback had you...well...you know...injected a virus into his system, or stole his porn...
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February 10th, 2004, 01:06 PM
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Mesa
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First off, you MUST drop the radius of your signal. If I knew where you lived I could connect to your network with out you knowing I was there. WEP can be hacked, you need to get atleast 128 bit encription or you will have the neighborhood kid getting into your tax information. I think you can get 256 bit now too
Also, turn off SSID Broadcasting your router will broadcase the name of your network out of the box. Every computer in your network must be set with your matching SSID.
If I knew where you lived I could get your SSID very easily because I have some fancy little tools...but I can't get to your SSID if i can't get through your WEP
Lastly, limit the amount of DHCP connections to ONLY the number of machines you have in your home
As far as securing our MACs In the router config page enable MAC filtering and add the MAC addresses of your wireless MAC cards so the router will ONLY accept those cards
I used to install WIFI networks as a side business and I have seen every trick in the book.
Last edited by Ryanwb; February 10th, 2004 at 01:09 PM.
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February 10th, 2004, 08:30 PM
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Woof!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Ahwatukee
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Thanks Ryan!
You da' man!
Set 128 Wep,
Disabled SSID broadcast
Added MAC filtering
Cant find the option on the DHCP.
Actually, I may not be broadcasting that far - I only have 802.11b - but I am picking up a neighbor (I know his name and his SSID is the same) and he is further than 300 feet away.
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February 11th, 2004, 10:56 AM
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Next Up
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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I have wireless as well and use 802.11b becouse I bought it a few years ago. Only use it for one laptop to hook-up to my reciever for audio files and to surf the net on my padio. No problems yet but I did limit my conections to one.
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February 11th, 2004, 12:08 PM
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Banned
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Mesa
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802.11d and I believe there is even an "E" are out now.....way cool
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February 23rd, 2004, 09:39 AM
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The Punisher
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ryanwb
First off, you MUST drop the radius of your signal. If I knew where you lived I could connect to your network with out you knowing I was there. WEP can be hacked, you need to get atleast 128 bit encription or you will have the neighborhood kid getting into your tax information. I think you can get 256 bit now too
Also, turn off SSID Broadcasting your router will broadcase the name of your network out of the box. Every computer in your network must be set with your matching SSID.
If I knew where you lived I could get your SSID very easily because I have some fancy little tools...but I can't get to your SSID if i can't get through your WEP
Lastly, limit the amount of DHCP connections to ONLY the number of machines you have in your home
As far as securing our MACs In the router config page enable MAC filtering and add the MAC addresses of your wireless MAC cards so the router will ONLY accept those cards
I used to install WIFI networks as a side business and I have seen every trick in the book.
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I was going to tell you the same thing. Most people not in the know never change the default password, etc.
Easiest part I think is to to the MAC filtering. ie: three pc's, 3 mac addresses allowed.
All you need is a good cisco wireless card and a downloaded program off the web, and drive around checking wireless networks broadcasting. Heck, you can sit at the phx public library parking lot and do that.
By the way, I'm not some teenage hacker either. I do this for a living.
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December 22nd, 2004, 09:14 PM
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You think KFCs still open
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Sun Devil Stadium, Sect 27, Row 34, Seat 8
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where do I change the settings for my netgear wireless router?
thanks
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December 22nd, 2004, 09:18 PM
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The Cardinal Smiles
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Nashville
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Originally Posted by maddogkf
where do I change the settings for my netgear wireless router?
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We have that at home as well.
It's in the program that was installed.
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December 22nd, 2004, 09:20 PM
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You think KFCs still open
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Sun Devil Stadium, Sect 27, Row 34, Seat 8
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I got it - it's on the website....
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December 23rd, 2004, 03:27 AM
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Speakin Victory!
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Margaritaville,north of Tucson
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Originally Posted by jw7
Actually, I may not be broadcasting that far - I only have 802.11b - but I am picking up a neighbor (I know his name and his SSID is the same) and he is further than 300 feet away.
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Where do you find that info  ,there are several people in my neiborhood that have wireless, some secure some not and I can view them by clicking on the view availible wireless networks tab but that doesn't mean that there piggybacking me,only that those are the availible networks within a 300+ foot area.
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December 24th, 2004, 10:33 PM
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Don't touch my tail!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: So Cal
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As a side note, make sure you turn off any PnP (plug and play) options or support, default on the older routers is set to ON... I am not sure how it works on other routers but using the linksys as an example, it defeats your harware firewall capabilities... Someone can get into your router by writing code allowing the router to read his system as something that requires access through the Plug and Pray (play) settings...
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