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Old November 22nd, 2004, 02:52 PM   #1
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Police: Woman Allegedly Cuts Arms Off Baby


Postpartum depression my Ass!



PLANO, Texas -- Police in Plano, Texas, arrested a woman accused of allegedly cutting the arms off her 11-month-old baby girl and have charged her with capital murder.

Police said Dena Schlosser, 35, was detained for questioning Monday after calling 911 to summon officers to the apartment. Police say the woman told them she cut off her baby's arms.

Police spokesman Carl Duke said the baby was taken to a Plano hospital, where she died.

A Child Protective Services spokeswoman said the agency had investigated the mother for either abuse or neglect involving the infant girl, shortly after her birth in January.

The spokeswoman told The Dallas Morning News that the mother had "postpartum depression."

The woman has two other children who were in school at the time of the incident, reported KXAS-TV in Dallas. It is believed that they will be released to the custody of their father.
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Old November 22nd, 2004, 02:55 PM   #2
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That's just bull! No way was that PPD! It's cases like this that just make me so sick to my stomach. HOW could anyone do that to a baby? ESPECIALLY the baby's own MOTHER! Sick, sick, sick.
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Old November 22nd, 2004, 02:56 PM   #3
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Sickening. What is wrong with Texas Moms?
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Old November 22nd, 2004, 03:22 PM   #4
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Old November 22nd, 2004, 03:33 PM   #5
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Old November 22nd, 2004, 03:36 PM   #6
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Postpartum depression my Ass!



PLANO, Texas -- Police in Plano, Texas, arrested a woman accused of allegedly cutting the arms off her 11-month-old baby girl and have charged her with capital murder.

Police said Dena Schlosser, 35, was detained for questioning Monday after calling 911 to summon officers to the apartment. Police say the woman told them she cut off her baby's arms.

Police spokesman Carl Duke said the baby was taken to a Plano hospital, where she died.

A Child Protective Services spokeswoman said the agency had investigated the mother for either abuse or neglect involving the infant girl, shortly after her birth in January.

The spokeswoman told The Dallas Morning News that the mother had "postpartum depression."

The woman has two other children who were in school at the time of the
incident, reported KXAS-TV in Dallas. It is believed that they will be released to the custody of their father.


PPD can be really wicked though, it can totally change the chemistry of a womans mind. I had a distant cousin who tried to kill herself and her baby shortly after she gave birth. She doesn't know how she could have thought of something like that now. She said it felt like she was heavily drugged...
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Old November 23rd, 2004, 06:38 AM   #7
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I want to know why Child Protective Services didn't follow up on the January abuse investigation.
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Old November 23rd, 2004, 06:43 AM   #8
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I saw another report that said the 911 operator heard "christian hymns" playing in the background.
She'll use the "god told me to do it" defense...
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Old November 23rd, 2004, 03:25 PM   #9
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Sickening. What is wrong with Texas Moms?
Dunno...but there sure seems like a bad trend is developing...

Texas Severed Arms Case Similar to Others
05:36 PM EST - November 23, 2004

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When a mother admitted killing her baby daughter by severing the child's arms this week, she joined a high-profile list of Texas women with histories of mental illness who have killed their children in gruesome fashion.

The state has had at least four similar cases in recent years. Andrea Yates drowned her five children in the family's Houston bathtub in 2001. Deanna Laney bashed her three sons' skulls with rocks last year, killing two and maiming a toddler. She said God told her to do it.

A mother from suburban Dallas drowned her daughters last fall, and a woman in Brownsville is accused of helping her common-law husband behead her three children.

In all the cases, the women had some sort of mental illness in their past.

Though the killings have been brutal, legal and psychiatric experts say such cases are no more common here than in other states.

They note that several factors have caused Texas to get more attention on the issue, including intense media coverage following the Yates case that may have created an illusion that Texas has more mothers killing children.

"Texas seems to be a lightning rod," said George Parnham, the Houston attorney who defended Yates. "I don't necessarily go with the idea that we're wackos down here."

Dena Schlosser, 35, was charged with capital murder Monday after calmly telling a 911 operator that she had cut off the arms of 11-month old Margaret. Police found Schlosser sitting in her living room, covered in blood, a church hymn playing in the background.

Schlosser had a history of postpartum depression, a disorder that can occur in women after they give birth.

Her mental history and her 911 confession are similar to Yates. And the method Schlosser used shared the bizarre, brutal nature of Laney's rocks and Yates' systematic drowning.

"To actually sever the arms suggests something special was going on," said psychiatrist Phillip Resnick, who testified in the trials of Laney and Yates. "It suggests on its face that there was some specialized psychotic thinking, but you just don't know."

Yates, who had a history of schizophrenia and postpartum depression and said the devil prompted her to kill her kids, was convicted of capital murder and is serving a life sentence. Laney was acquitted of capital murder by reason of insanity after psychiatrists agreed psychotic delusions kept her from knowing right from wrong.

Authorities discovered a grisly scene at the Schlossers' apartment.

An officer had to remove a knife from Schlosser's hand, according to a search warrant affidavit released Tuesday. The baby was found in her crib, both arms severed at the shoulder, and died at a hospital a short time later.

Authorities said the two older daughters in the family, ages 6 and 9, were at school when police arrived, and that their father was at work.

Schlosser had been investigated on child-neglect allegations this year, but Texas Child Protective Services had recently closed a seven-month investigation, concluding that Schlosser did not pose a risk to her children.

The severed arms case will certainly add to the media attention on the issue. But DePaul University law professor Michelle Oberman, who has written extensively on mothers who kill their children, said Texas may be bringing some of the attention on itself with the way it prosecutes such cases.

"It gears up the criminal justice system for a death penalty prosecution, rather than approaching the cases as instances of profound mental illness," Oberman said.

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The state has had at least four similar cases in recent years. Andrea Yates drowned her five children in the family's Houston bathtub in 2001. Deanna Laney bashed her three sons' skulls with rocks last year, killing two and maiming a toddler. She said God told her to do it.


I think this God character needs to be indicted for conspiracy to commit multiple murder - remember when he told the Israelites to kill an entire tribe and steal their land? What a jerk!
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Old November 24th, 2004, 09:13 AM   #14
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The state has had at least four similar cases in recent years. Andrea Yates drowned her five children in the family's Houston bathtub in 2001. Deanna Laney bashed her three sons' skulls with rocks last year, killing two and maiming a toddler. She said God told her to do it.


I think this God character needs to be indicted for conspiracy to commit multiple murder - remember when he told the Israelites to kill an entire tribe and steal their land? What a jerk!
Apparently you have not considered the mental illness these women have. I find it amazing that people (mostly men) kill people (including women and children) on a daily basis, yet you do not make comments about their "sanity" or belief in God. Men kill people just for killings sake, but that's not commented on cuz it's somehow different in people's minds when a mother commits the murder. You, who it seems doesn't believe in God, wants to blame Him for these atrocities instead of looking at the mental state of these women. These women are obviously out of their minds in order to harm their children this way & then say God told them to do it. You don't actually believe that God told them to, because it appears that you don't believe in God. The bible (your Old testament reference, which you choose to try use in your argument) never says that God is this "peachy keen" kind of leader. He is loving yes, but he also just. I have an idea....maybe you should go to an actual bible study on the book of Revelation & find out what's in store for those who don't believe. Ain't gonna be pretty, but HE has an undeniable purpose. I can hook you up with a study on Thursday nights if you're interested. (ha ha)

If you want to bash God, maybe you should take it to the p & r board? In the meantime, I'll be watching out for the lightning bolt above your house.
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The state has had at least four similar cases in recent years. Andrea Yates drowned her five children in the family's Houston bathtub in 2001. Deanna Laney bashed her three sons' skulls with rocks last year, killing two and maiming a toddler. She said God told her to do it.


I think this God character needs to be indicted for conspiracy to commit multiple murder - remember when he told the Israelites to kill an entire tribe and steal their land? What a jerk!

And then he burnt down that city one time.... Man. He should be charged with war crimes... Oh and he incited the crusades, spanish inquisition, King Phillips War...


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