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Old January 5th, 2006, 09:09 PM   #1
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Marijuana is legal in Denver ?


When did this happen? Anyone else know about this?

This is revolutionary!

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3352265

http://www.boulderweekly.com/archive.../newsspin.html

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...09/detail.html

http://www.technicianonline.com/story.php?id=012638

I still looks rather complicated, but still it is a start.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 09:36 PM   #2
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Will it help the carpet cleaning industry up there?
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Old January 6th, 2006, 03:29 AM   #3
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Why is this revolutionary? Whole states have legalized pot possesion in different degrees and all that happens is the federal government steps in and says they will still have local police arrest people under federal law. So nothing is going to change until a federal law is enacted legalizing pot.
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Old January 6th, 2006, 05:13 AM   #4
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Either way, the answer is NO.....


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Old January 6th, 2006, 06:20 AM   #5
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When did this happen? Anyone else know about this?

This is revolutionary!

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3352265

http://www.boulderweekly.com/archive.../newsspin.html

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...09/detail.html

http://www.technicianonline.com/story.php?id=012638

I still looks rather complicated, but still it is a start.
Yes it is legal to possess a small amount in Denver. It was passed a popular vote in November.
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Old January 6th, 2006, 06:52 AM   #6
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Old January 6th, 2006, 07:51 AM   #7
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"The notion of prohibiting the use of marijuana while allowing and even encouraging the use of alcohol is not rational on any level of government," Tvert said.
Although I don't smoke pot, I agree with this comment wholeheartedly...







...probably would if it were legal, though
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I wouldn't smoke pot if it were legal. I just don't like it. I get a better buzz from a Guiness and a Macanudo.

But it is not the place of lawmakers to tell people what they can and can't put into there bodies. We are all adults....and as long as we don't hurt anybody, knock yourself out.
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Old January 6th, 2006, 08:11 AM   #9
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I wouldn't smoke pot if it were legal. I just don't like it. I get a better buzz from a Guiness and a Macanudo.

But it is not the place of lawmakers to tell people what they can and can't put into there bodies. We are all adults....and as long as we don't hurt anybody, knock yourself out.
So you think a person should be able to load up on Methamphetamines, Heroin, Crack, Etc just because they are adults?
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Old January 6th, 2006, 08:53 AM   #10
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But it is not the place of lawmakers to tell people what they can and can't put into there bodies. We are all adults....and as long as we don't hurt anybody, knock yourself out.
I don't really have an opinion on the pot law, but don't you think that some substances that are illegal are illegal because it greatly increases the chances for one to hurt others?

For example, crack addicts aren't just hurting themselves, once they're hooked they'll do anything for their next high. And, since it's not often you see crack addicts with a job (for one, because once you become a crack addict you can't hold down a job), they turn to crime. Also, because the almighty dollar is also very enticing, the dealers turn to playgrounds and kids as new, long-term profitable sales channels.
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I don't really have an opinion on the pot law, but don't you think that some substances that are illegal are illegal because it greatly increases the chances for one to hurt others?

For example, crack addicts aren't just hurting themselves, once they're hooked they'll do anything for their next high. And, since it's not often you see crack addicts with a job (for one, because once you become a crack addict you can't hold down a job), they turn to crime. Also, because the almighty dollar is also very enticing, the dealers turn to playgrounds and kids as new, long-term profitable sales channels.
Just because I want to legalize drugs does not mean that I want to give a free for all for people to start violating each other.

I'll use crack as an example. (although I believe this drug and Meth would dissappear if drugs were legal.)

If you want to sit in your living room and smoke crack, go for it, if you don't go out and harm anyone or steal anything or be loud and obxnoious....nobody should come arrest you.

But, since you made the choice to smoke crack, you better be ready for the consequences that will come. Especially if you go out and shank somebody or throw a brick through a store and start stealing. I'd be 100% for automatically doubling any sentence somebody receives if it is proved they were under the influence of these previously illegal drugs. If you get out of prison....go smoke crack again, and fire off another crime, automatically triple any sentence. If you can't handle the new freedoms....go rot in prison.

As for the drug dealers. Boo Hoo....they'd be out of a job wouldn't they?? Seems to me that the Mafia made hand over fist of money during Prohibition. Now they make that money in Cocaine/Heroin...etc.
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Old January 6th, 2006, 09:08 AM   #12
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But, since you made the choice to smoke crack, you better be ready for the consequences that will come. Especially if you go out and shank somebody or throw a brick through a store and start stealing. I'd be 100% for automatically doubling any sentence somebody receives if it is proved they were under the influence of these previously illegal drugs. If you get out of prison....go smoke crack again, and fire off another crime, automatically triple any sentence. If you can't handle the new freedoms....go rot in prison.
I don't think crack addicts think or care about the consequences--they just want that next score.

There are things that lead to harming others, I think hard drugs are one of those things. Do you think driving while impared should be legal? Technically, driving drunk isn't what hurts people--it's the accidents that stem from it that do.
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I don't think crack addicts think or care about the consequences--they just want that next score.

There are things that lead to harming others, I think hard drugs are one of those things. Do you think driving while impared should be legal? Technically, driving drunk isn't what hurts people--it's the accidents that stem from it that do.
Then eventually crack addicts will spend the rest of their lives in jail because they choose to do a drug where they can't control their actions.

As for DUI....I think the penalties should continue to be stiffened. I choose to drink....but when I do I don't choose to drive. When you are on a road you are in a position where you can harm other people or their property. I guess if you could get on a test track with your own car......then I would be fine with it. If you want to flip a car and kill yourself don't let me stand in your way.

I'm not a real big fan of drunk drivers at all. In fact, if they want to start charging people who cause an accident while drunk with attempted murder.....they'd deserve it. (assuming no injuries)
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Then eventually crack addicts will spend the rest of their lives in jail because they choose to do a drug where they can't control their actions.
There isn't some finite number of addicts, though. There will always be someone becoming an addict as the next one is put in jail.

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As for DUI....I think the penalties should continue to be stiffened. I choose to drink....but when I do I don't choose to drive. When you are on a road you are in a position where you can harm other people or their property. I guess if you could get on a test track with your own car......then I would be fine with it. If you want to flip a car and kill yourself don't let me stand in your way.

I'm not a real big fan of drunk drivers at all. In fact, if they want to start charging people who cause an accident while drunk with attempted murder.....they'd deserve it. (assuming no injuries)
Okay, but what about the legality of driving drunk and not hurting anyone. If someone gets pulled over for a broken taillight and stinks of booze, is given a sobriety test and fails....then what? They haven't hurt anyone. But the chances that they will are greatly increased. Same with becoming a crack or meth or heroin addict--they may not have done anything to anyone but themselves yet, but the chances that they will are greatly increased.
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There isn't some finite number of addicts, though. There will always be someone becoming an addict as the next one is put in jail.

Okay, but what about the legality of driving drunk and not hurting anyone. If someone gets pulled over for a broken taillight and stinks of booze, is given a sobriety test and fails....then what? They haven't hurt anyone. But the chances that they will are greatly increased. Same with becoming a crack or meth or heroin addict--they may not have done anything to anyone but themselves yet, but the chances that they will are greatly increased.
First of all, aren't both Crack and Meth designer drugs?? Didn't designer drugs spring up because Heroin/Cocaine have become incredibly expensive. Mostly because of the smuggling efforts it takes to get into the country. (I'm not a junkie...so I have to rely on what I hear from a buddy who is PPD, and a cousin who is currently in prison for an addiction to Meth.)

So if drugs were legalized....wouldn't the purity of H/Coke increase, and the price decrease?? People would be less tempted to try it. Businesses making these, seeing a decreased demand, would not make it. It could disappear.

As for H.....I've been told you basically lay around comatose with that one.

Maybe you make a law that doing drugs is legal in your home or a certain bar or something. That you aren't allowed to wander around intoxicated with these substances.

Good point on the stinking of booze in the car thing. I honestly don't know. I guess they probably shouldn't let people into NFL games if they stink of booze either.....they are more likely to start a fight.
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