July 1st, 2011, 10:33 AM
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If you eat a scorpion or consume snake venom, do you not get poisoned?
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July 1st, 2011, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mulli
If you eat a scorpion or consume snake venom, do you not get poisoned?
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Venomous:
It is commonly accepted that being venomous is being capable of producing, storing and delivering toxin. It is commonly associated with toxins being actively injected and the venom may not have any effect if consumed. However, a twist to this definition is a term used by some called secondary venom. It is used when animals like hedgehog rubs a poisonous toad on the spines and become 'venomous'. It is then capable of delivering the exogenous toxin to the molester. This, however, is not accepted by everyone.
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It is commonly accepted being capable of producing and storing the toxin. It is usually not actively delivered ,as opposed to venomous animals, and the toxin if consumed is harmful. Dendrobatids (poison arrow frog) fits this definition. There is yet another term used, secondary toxicity. It is usually applied to animals which consumes poisonous substances and become poisonous themselves. It is common among animals which become poisonous when they consume the poisonous red algae (red tide) and survived. They become poisonous to consumption. Yet further confusion is caused by the fish in Tetraodontidae (puffer fish). Contrary to what many (myself included) used to think, they do not themselves produce toxin. It is the enteric bacteria which produce the tetrodotoxin. This may be considered as a form of secondary toxicity. Another problem is that some puffer fish and frogs are capable of excreting/secreting the poison (toxin) when threatened or stressed. When this comes in contact and enters the body, the toxin exerts its effect. This blurs the boundary between being venomous and being poisonous
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Not saying the site is by any means the ultimate authority on the subject, but the explanations given are sound.
http://members.tripod.com/c_kianwee/venom.htm
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July 1st, 2011, 10:41 AM
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That site made me too dizzy to read any of the information contained therein.
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July 1st, 2011, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mulli
That site made me too dizzy to read any of the information contained therein.
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Here's the part she quoted that is most relevant, Mulli:
This, however, is not accepted by everyone.
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July 1st, 2011, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mulli
That site made me too dizzy to read any of the information contained therein.
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That's why I quoted the relevant parts in my post.
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July 1st, 2011, 10:49 AM
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