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Old March 31st, 2003, 12:27 PM   #1
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Did the Brits find a WOMD smoking gun?


http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/72332.htm

BRITS' CHILLING CHEM-NUKE FIND

By DEBORAH ORIN
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March 31, 2003 -- British troops have made an eerie discovery in occupied Iraq - a facility filled with training equipment for nuclear, biological and chemical warfare, according to British press reports.
The existence of the facility - packed with gear such as Geiger counters, nerve gas simulators, gas masks, protective suits and even a schematic of a nuclear mushroom cloud - flies in the face of Saddam Hussein's denials that his country is pursuing weapons of mass destruction.

One document at the facility - which was discovered near the key port of Umm Qasr - appears to give directions on sarin and other banned nerve gasses.

Top Pentagon officials say they believe the risk of Iraqi troops using chemical weapons will rise as coalition forces move closer to Baghdad. The enemy has been repeatedly warned that they'll be treated as war criminals if they use such weapons.



"There is no doubt that they have chemical weapons [and] means of delivery," said Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Richard Myers.

"Most of the chemical, biological sites that we're concerned with . . . are much closer to the Baghdad region, so I think it's going to take some more advance and for people to come forward and point out where these sites are."

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told ABC's "This Week" yesterday that it's no surprise that U.S.-led forces haven't yet found the actual chemical weapons because most of them are near Baghdad and Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit.

"The area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial," Rumsfeld said. "It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed."

Baghdad is defended by Saddam's elite Republican Guard, which is suspected by U.N. inspectors to be concealing information about Iraq's chemical and biological weapons programs. During the 1990s, inspectors were repeatedly denied access to Special Republican Guard facilities in Baghdad.

The British find makes at least three sites where Iraqi chemical weapons gear was found - U.S. Marines on Saturday found over 300 chemical protection suits and gas masks at a compound used by Iraq's 11th Infantry Division in Nasiriyah on the Euphrates River.

They also found injectors of atropine - an antidote for nerve agents - and chemical decontamination vehicles and devices, the U.S. Central Command reported.

Earlier last week, the Marines found more than 3,000 chemical protection suits - again with gas masks, decontamination devices and atropine injectors - at a supposed hospital in Nasiriyah that's now believed to have been a base for paramilitary Iraqi troops.

Myers yesterday said "we found some chemical suits in the north [of Iraq] as well" but gave no details.

The Washington Post reported yesterday that special operations teams had found no banned weapons at the 10 highest-priority sites believed to house chemical warheads and Scud missiles.

Myers and Rumsfeld said a search of a suspected poison factory in northeastern Iraq with possible links to the al Qaeda network would take some time.
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Old March 31st, 2003, 06:12 PM   #2
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How about Al Qaeda link??


http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20030331_1922.html


BIYARE, Iraq March 31 —
A U.S.-led assault on a compound controlled by an extremist Islamic group turned up a list of names of suspected militants living in the United States and what may be the strongest evidence yet linking the group to al-Qaida, coalition commanders said Monday.

The cache of documents at the Ansar al-Islam compound, including computer discs and foreign passports belonging to Arab fighters from around the Middle East, could bolster the Bush administration's claims that the two groups are connected, although there was no indication any of the evidence tied Ansar to Saddam Hussein as Washington has maintained.

There were indications, however, that the group has been getting help from inside neighboring Iran.

Kurdish and Turkish intelligence officials, some speaking on condition of anonymity, said many of Ansar's 700 members have slipped out of Iraq and into Iran putting them out of reach of coalition forces.

The officials also said a U.S. missile strike on Ansar's territory on the second day of the war missed most of its leadership which crossed into Iran days earlier.

U.S. officials said the government had reports some Ansar fighters could have made it into Iran and have been shuttling back and forth with fresh supplies.

According to a high-level Kurdish intelligence official, three Ansar leaders identified as Ayoub Afghani, Abdullah Shafeye and Abu Wahel were among those who had fled into Iran. The official said the three were seen being detained by Iranian authorities Sunday.

"We asked the Iranian authorities to hand over to us any of the Afghan Arabs or Islamic militants hiding themselves inside the villages of Iran," said Boorhan Saeed, a member of the pro-U.S. Patriotic Union of Kurdistan. "We asked them about it Sunday, and still don't have a response."

Last week, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld warned the Iranians to stop meddling in the war. Tehran denied any involvement.

Using airstrikes and ground forces, Kurdish soldiers and U.S. troops have cooperated in the past week to dislodge and crush Ansar militants in 18 villages surrounding the Iraqi city of Halabja about 160 miles northeast of Baghdad.

"We actually believe we destroyed a significant portion of the Ansar al-Islam force there," Maj. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, vice director of operations on the Pentagon's Joint Staff, said Monday. He said forces were investigating the finds.

Among a trove of evidence found inside Ansar compounds were passports and identity papers of Ansar activists indicating that up to 150 of them were foreigners, including Yemenis, Turks, Palestinians, Pakistanis, Algerians and Iranians.

Coalition forces also found a phone book containing numbers of alleged Islamic activists based in the United States and Europe as well as the number of a Kuwaiti cleric and a letter from Yemen's minister of religion. The names and numbers were not released.

"What we've discovered in Biyare is a very sophisticated operation," said Barham Salih, prime minister of the Kurdish regional government.

Seized computer disks contained evidence showing meetings between Ansar and al-Qaida activists, according to Mahdi Saeed Ali, a military commander.

It was unclear how strong Ansar remains.

Officials from the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, one of two parties that share control of an autonomous Kurdish enclave in northern Iraq, say they killed 250 Ansar members during two days of intense fighting and aerial bombardments.

"There was ferocious fighting," Saeed said. He said he chased 25 Ansar militants across the Iranian border and captured nine Ansar sympathizers belonging to a group called the Islamic Movement of Kurdistan.

The remaining Ansar fighters are thought to be in the mountains along the Iraq-Iran border, U.S. and Kurdish military officials have said.

Kurdish soldiers on Monday continued sporadic fighting in several villages around Halabja and along the Iran-Iraq border near the village of Sargat, site of a destroyed building once allegedly used by Ansar militants to produce poison.

Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Sunday the Sargat compound was probably the site where militants made a biological toxin, traces of which were later found by police in London.

"We think that's probably where the ricin that was found in London came (from)" he told CNN's "Late Edition." "At least the operatives and maybe some of the formulas came from this site."

British police raided a London apartment in January and found traces of ricin, a powerful poison made from castor plant beans. U.S. officials believe the poison and those arrested were linked to Ansar.

The group's leader, Mullah Krekar, is being held in Norway on charges of kidnapping and aiding terrorists.

Krekar has denied any links to Saddam or al-Qaida, but said he considers Osama bin Laden a "good Muslim."

In a recent interview with Dutch television, Krekar said his fighters would use suicide attacks if U.S. troops went after the group.

One such attack came three days into the war when an apparent car bomb killed at least five people, including an Australian cameraman, at a checkpoint near an Ansar training camp.
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Old March 31st, 2003, 07:48 PM   #3
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Interesting. What does this mean regarding the opinion of the populous of the coalition countries and what does this mean regarding the view of the war of the countries who spoke out against the war?
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Interesting. What does this mean regarding the opinion of the populous of the coalition countries and what does this mean regarding the view of the war of the countries who spoke out against the war?
Tony - since you are Canadian, and this is the first war where US, British and Australian troops have fought without Canadians, what will it take to convince the Canadian people about Iraq?
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Old April 1st, 2003, 07:09 AM   #5
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Since I was born an American and have now lived a little more than half my life in America I will tell you something about Canadians. Most of English Canada support the war. It is the French Canadian and the Anti-American that don't.
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