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Old March 7th, 2003, 12:35 PM   #16
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While you're busy criticizing Bush (no surprise there ) for answering questions the same way each time...why not criticize the "press" for asking the same questions over and over, tweaking them just a bit here and there.

When the guy gives you an answer...why ask nearly the same question, worded differently, or tweaked a little somehow? Ask him something different.

It's not like someone stood up and said "What did you have for lunch, Mr. President?" and Bush responded "Saddam must disarm or we'll disarm him."
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Old March 7th, 2003, 12:36 PM   #17
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I honestly believe that March 17 is the day. If compliance has not been met, we will attack them. We are running out of time based on the weather in Iraq.

Unless we see Saddam get exiled and have solid evidence that disarmament is their primary order of business, there is going to be a ton of new parking lot property available.
I just wish it would get over with. I'm tired of this politcal wrangling and waiting for something to get done.
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Old March 7th, 2003, 12:36 PM   #18
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For the reporters’ part, they asked some stupid questions.

AMEN!
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Old March 7th, 2003, 12:40 PM   #19
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The only trap door I can see is if Saddam actually DOES disclose and destroys his weapons the internation community will say, Mission Accomplished. I am not so sure the international community cares if he is still in power. I DO believe they care about his weapons though.

I didn't see it last night so am only speaking in terms of what has been said here and what we know.

Saddam MAY give up his weapons and disclose all but he will NEVER leave power without fighting. So if our true aim is to remove him from power, then let's get busy...not on the 17th or 16th but tomorrow. For the lkife of me I cannot figure out why we pre-announce all this stuff. JUST DO IT and let the media catch up. If our true aim is disclosure and destroying his weapons...well there is still time for that to happen.
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Old March 7th, 2003, 12:42 PM   #20
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That's all well and good Brian, but it still does not answer the questions of why WE are the only ones who see this.
The others see it. They choose to ignore it. They choose to put other interests first.

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France means nothing in this. They'll veto any resolution that involves war. Fine. If the whole UN is in support of the US, and France still vetos it, then they are the ones that will be in the minority.
I hope the majority of the UN supports us and think they will, but the no votes are of less concern to me. The UN is basically one huge anti-American rally anyway. To them, we’re worse than Iraq. Fine, they can think that. We’ll keep protecting their right to think that. Ungrateful bastards.

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If Bush was going to answer every question with the same answer, as he did, then he should have just delivered it as an address to the nation and the press and NOT fielded questions.
You’re probably right. He was probably trying for something different though.
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Old March 7th, 2003, 12:42 PM   #21
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I do not think Saddam will back down. He has lied for too long now. He has said repeatedly that he does NOT have what we say he has. Suddenly he's going to go "Alright, you got me. Here's all the WOMD you've been bugging me about. By the way...I'm stayin' in power, okay?"
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Old March 7th, 2003, 12:43 PM   #22
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Saddam MAY give up his weapons and disclose all but he will NEVER leave power without fighting.
I think that is a hard truth--and the crux as to why France doesn't want war--they want the weapons gone, but they DON'T want Saddam gone.
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Old March 7th, 2003, 12:44 PM   #23
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I do not think Saddam will back down. He has lied for too long now. He has said repeatedly that he does NOT have what we say he has. Suddenly he's going to go "Alright, you got me. Here's all the WOMD you've been bugging me about. By the way...I'm stayin' in power, okay?"
I think he's already said that. He's denied it for so long, and now that he's destroying missiles and whatever, it's just a smokescreen to cover his lying.
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Old March 7th, 2003, 12:56 PM   #24
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If he would have answered the questions, the reporters would not have had to reword and reask the questions.
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If he would have answered the questions, the reporters would not have had to reword and reask the questions.
Oh sure they would.

They would have asked the same questions however they asked, because he wasn't going to give them the answer they want.

You know what would be a fun exercise? Get a hold of the questions answered and answer them how you wished Bush would have answered them.
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Bob Like Wayward said prior. The other countries see the evidence. They all do with the exception of four countries being France, germany, Russia, and China.

They all have alterior motives for wanting to avert war regardless of what evidence is presented to them.

Why is it that the majority of countries actually do back us and see what we see but those four countries do not is the more logical question?
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I think it's become a lost cause. I'm fully in support of removing Saddam from power, but right now, the cowardly French are going to prevent that.

But do we consider other alternatives? No. We keep pushing for a vote we know we won't win. Why?
I'm curoius ... what are options are there? Sanctions won't work because part of the secondary reasos for the war is to control or hoipefully remove Saddam from power. Sanctions simply mean that the Iraqi people will suffer, not Saddam. What other options do we have???
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I'm curoius ... what are options are there? Sanctions won't work because part of the secondary reasos for the war is to control or hoipefully remove Saddam from power. Sanctions simply mean that the Iraqi people will suffer, not Saddam. What other options do we have???
Well, obviously the rest of the free world thinks we have options--which of course means, extending the inspections.

Let me make it clear: I am NOT in favor of extending inspections, we've given the idiot enough time to do what needs to be done. But our posturing and whining isn't going to help matters. We're not going to be successful with a United Nations vote. Since that is most certainly the case, we need to look BEYOND that instead of holding all our hopes on it, since it probably won't happen. What's the point of that?
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But our posturing and whining isn't going to help matters. We're not going to be successful with a United Nations vote. Since that is most certainly the case, we need to look BEYOND that instead of holding all our hopes on it, since it probably won't happen. What's the point of that?

Posturing and whining? Who said we're pinning our hopes on a resolution? The decision has been made. The rest of the stuff is to appease the French, Germans, Russians, Chinese, and fence-sitters. We will go alone if we have to.

About the press conference. All of this has obviously taken a toll on Bush. He looked tired. He also looked and sounded like a man who has made a incredibly tough decision. It takes humongous ba*** to do what he's doing. Yes, it may mean he'll be a one-term President. But, at least we have someone in office who's actually not putting up with the threats from these rogue, foreign nations/terrorists.
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My mom has some interesting ideas on that. She's WAY smarter than I am in economics and politics. If we go to war without UN support, we will be responsible, economically for the vast majority of rebuilding expenses incuredafter removing Saddam from power. That could continue to hurt us economically here in the U.S. and would DEFINITELY drag out this recesion. Thats a pretty big deal. If we have U N backing than coalition support is used to rebuild Iraq, and that costs us a lot less.

While it may hurt in the short run (especially if the Frenchies and others stay home), I believe that Iraq's vast oil reserves will help with the rebuilding. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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