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Gonna catch the first show in the morning. I've heard that it's much better than the first one - I can't wait. I feel like a kid the night before Christmas.
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I did enjoy it but I certainly dont think it was all that much better than the 1st!
Question here????
If Wolverine was created like the story seems to show then why is he considered a mutant?
Arent mutants freaks of nature that occured through evolution like it stated atthe end of the movie? So why would something created be lumped into the same category?
Originally posted by Shane H I did enjoy it but I certainly dont think it was all that much better than the 1st!
The first movie was boring and uninvolving, this one was the complete opposite. Definitely much better--a new member of the very short list of sequels that are better than the original...
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Originally posted by Shane H
Arent mutants freaks of nature that occured through evolution like it stated atthe end of the movie? So why would something created be lumped into the same category?
Well, he's always thought of himself as a mutant until he found out exactly how he was "created". But then again, you heard the technical definition, but it seems to me that the real definition of a mutant is just someone that is different than human. And although Wolverine technically is only human, he has mutant qualities.
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Originally posted by Chaplin Well, he's always thought of himself as a mutant until he found out exactly how he was "created". But then again, you heard the technical definition, but it seems to me that the real definition of a mutant is just someone that is different than human. And although Wolverine technically is only human, he has mutant qualities.
Umm...Wolverine is a mutant.
He has freaking claws for starters, and an incredible healing ability.
Much of his origin is still a mystery, althought the comics have recently revealed a little more (to the dismay of most fans, cause we prefer the mysteriousness of his origin).
If Wolverine was just a human, he never would have survived the Weapon X surgery which added adamantium to his mutant skeleton.
(When Magneto removed all of the adamantium from Wolvie's body in the comics, Wolverine still had bone claws and his healing factor.)
Am I the only Marvel Comic diehard on this board?
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Originally posted by Chaplin Come back when you see the movie Brian.
Well they have taken a drastic change from the comic book Wolverine if what you're saying is true.
Seeing his father shot and killed shocked him so much that it triggered his latent mutant abilities. His claws extended and continued through Thomas.
During an encounter with the mutant Magneto on his space station called Avalon, Wolverine attempted to defeat Magneto using the claws presumably given to him by the Weapon X project. Magneto retaliated, using his powers of the magnetic field to tear the adamantium out of Wolverine's skeleton, causing extensive injuries. These injuries shorted out Wolverine's healing factor for a time, and Logan also discovered that the claws that he believed a result of the Weapon X project were in fact a natural mutation. The claws he now possesses are bone, and a natural part of his skeletal structure.
Can't believe Marvel would allow such a major change.
It was already bad enough they took away Spidey's mechanical web-shooters for that movie...
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Not to be argumentative Brian because I definately do not do the comic thing whatsoever so whatever happens in there I would have no clue about at all.
But in the movie they definately imply and show that Wolverines claws were implanted surgically and is in no way a natural occurance!
But you are right I never thought about the healing powers those definately cant be implanted in any way shape or form.
I was a former X-Men addict for about 7 years (10-17) and so I know most of the story up until I'd say 1994. Wolverine's "mutant" ability is his incredibly fast healing power (which was the only reason he was able to survive having his bones laced with adamantium) and also his keen sense of hearing and smell. Wolverine is "animal-esque" in his mutant abilities. I don't know anything about the "bone claws" cause I quit reading them long ago.
I was much more excited about the "thing in the lake" than anything else in the movie (don't want to say anymore to avoid spoilers)
Nightcrawler was more than I ever could have expected and the beginning scene in the movie was one of the best IMO.
As the comic book fan I love the cameos of Colossus (who is supposed to be in X3 even more), Shadowcat, and The Beast (Dr. Hank McCoy on the TV)
Movies and comics are two entirely different genres; what looks good on the page sometimes looks silly on film.
My response to the comic book die hards who like to gripe is this - Stan Lee is personally involved in every one of the Marvel film projects that he had a hand in. He signed off on every change. Considering that X-Men, Spiderman, Hulk, et al, are all his babies, he can do whatever the heck he wants to, to the property.
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The Greek disdain for archery was best expressed at Thermopylae (480BC) by Dieneces the Spartan - when he was told that the Persian arrows flew so thick that they blocked out the sun, he replied, "So much the better, then we will fight in the shade."
Yo DWKB, I hear ya on the "thing in the lake" bit!
I was a diehard comics fan for a long time and I think this was one of the best movies I've seen in a long while. Great sequel! Great movie! Nightcrawler was incredible. It balanced the characters well and had a very involving story. Brian Cox continues to steal the show in everything he appears in. All in all a huge step up from the first movie and a great way to start the summer run. Bring on Hulk!
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