February 9th, 2012, 05:39 PM
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George Lucas Claims That Han Solo Never Shot First In Star Wars
George Lucas Claims That Han Solo Never Shot First In Star Wars
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Georg...ars-29355.html
It's no secret that George Lucas has done everything in his power to try and suck the life out of Star Wars fans. Between not releasing the theatrical cuts of the original trilogy on DVD/Blu-ray to constantly adding more and more crap CGI to practically every frame, every couple of years Lucas does what he can to make Star Wars a little bit worse.
While there are many examples to cite when discussing how Lucas has butchered his own legacy, the one that fans most often point to is the scene in the Mos Eisley Cantina from Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, specifically the moment when Han Solo shoots Greedo. While in the 1977 cut of the film Han shoots the alien bounty hunter after feeling threatened, subsequent cuts - namely all of those since the 1997 special editions - have shown Greedo firing off a blast and Han firing back.
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So now - the original script was wrong, what all of us fans saw on the screen...wrong, and even what Lucas himself had previously stated regarding this scene...wrong.
LMAO

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February 9th, 2012, 06:25 PM
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February 9th, 2012, 06:36 PM
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What an awful man for creating a universe so big and a mythology so vast that it's captured the imagination of 100s of millions of people spanning four generations.
Burn in hell, George Lucas. We hope your days of torturing the human race with your fantastic tales and groundbreaking cinematics are over.
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February 9th, 2012, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Self
What an awful man for creating a universe so big and a mythology so vast that it's captured the imagination of 100s of millions of people spanning four generations.
Burn in hell, George Lucas. We hope your days of torturing the human race with your fantastic tales and groundbreaking cinematics are over.
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Wow. Hyperbole much?
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February 10th, 2012, 06:06 AM
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What a tool. Never have I seen someone create something so wonderful and cool, only to do everything in his power to try and ruin it.
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February 10th, 2012, 07:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Self
What an awful man for creating a universe so big and a mythology so vast that it's captured the imagination of 100s of millions of people spanning four generations.
Burn in hell, George Lucas. We hope your days of torturing the human race with your fantastic tales and groundbreaking cinematics are over.
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This (with sarcasm fully intact).
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February 10th, 2012, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Self
What an awful man for creating a universe so big and a mythology so vast that it's captured the imagination of 100s of millions of people spanning four generations.
Burn in hell, George Lucas. We hope your days of torturing the human race with your fantastic tales and groundbreaking cinematics are over.
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Originally Posted by Pariah
This (with sarcasm fully intact).
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Why does he find it necessary to continue to change his reasoning behind why he has changed the original (and the later modifications) again, and again, and again.
My issue with this isn't with Lucas' changing the original version, or his vision, or his legacy. The only real issue I have is that he just won't say "This is the way I want it now, they are my films, now go **** yourselves."
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February 10th, 2012, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Cardinals.Ken
Why does he find it necessary to continue to change his reasoning behind why he has changed the original (and the later modifications) again, and again, and again.
My issue with this isn't with Lucas' changing the original version, or his vision, or his legacy. The only real issue I have is that he just won't say "This is the way I want it now, they are my films, now go **** yourselves."
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I don't get why anyone cares so much. Make digital copies of your favorite version and keep those. Then stop reading anything Lucas has to say and your life will be magically stress free from undue Star Wars agitation.
Lucas can whiz on the original prints as far as I'm concerned. They're his creation. He can mash them up and transform them into anything he likes. For me, I'm just impressed that he's still emotionally engaged in that creation that he still talks about them. If I were him, I'd be totally exhausted by all things Star Wars by now and wanting to do something completely different.
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February 10th, 2012, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Self
I don't get why anyone cares so much...stop reading anything Lucas has to say and your life will be magically stress free from undue Star Wars agitation.
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Why does anyone care about anything that is out of their direct control, or their direct sphere of influence?
If Steve Gadd, or any other jazz drummer you may hold in high esteem, were to release a country album would you have an opinion to offer? Would your opinion be passionate? Would anyone else, aside from another jazz-snob, care?
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Make digital copies of your favorite version and keep those.
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I would if I could. I'd much rather have the choice of legally purchasing them on either DVD or Blu-Ray.
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February 10th, 2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cardinals.Ken
If Steve Gadd, or any other jazz drummer you may hold in high esteem, were to release a country album would you have an opinion to offer? Would your opinion be passionate? Would anyone else, aside from another jazz-snob, care?
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Actually, my hero, Vinnie Colaiuta, made an album with Megadeath that I hated, but it never got in the way of my hero worship. He's also re-recorded some of my favorite tracks and turned them into *bleh* but I've never resorted to tearing him down. He's one of the few people on the planet still today that would cause me to gush and be tongue-tied if I met him. Respect for true artistry isn't changed because he's done things I disapprove of.
You can criticize the work all you want. It's the personal attacks that blow me away.
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February 10th, 2012, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Cardinals.Ken
If Steve Gadd, or any other jazz drummer you may hold in high esteem, were to release a country album would you have an opinion to offer?
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I'd just listen to the album I liked. If Gadd wants to change HIS creation, that's his choice. I'll consume what I like and discard the rest. I may comment -- even vehemently so -- that I don't like the new direction (or even the new take on old material if he re-made an existing album with a different sound), but I don't think I'd vilify the artist.
I'm not actually a Gadd fan, but I'd say the same if it were John Mellencamp--who has actually changed quite a bit about his artistry over the years--or someone else who's work I really admire.
I just don't understand the venom directed at the man who gave Star Wars fans so much to love.
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February 10th, 2012, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Self
You can criticize the work all you want. It's the personal attacks that blow me away.
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What he said.
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February 10th, 2012, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pariah
I just don't understand the venom directed at the man who gave Star Wars fans so much to love.
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1. Probably because, like Ken said, Lucas isn't honest about why he keeps changing things. Dishonesty will always rub people the wrong way.
2. Lucas is doing everything in his power to make sure the original cuts of Star Wars never again become available to the public. That is just pure doucheness.
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February 10th, 2012, 09:54 AM
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In the next version of Star Wars, there will be digitally added tears to Han's face to show how remorseful he was over killing Greedo.
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February 10th, 2012, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Renz
1. Probably because, like Ken said, Lucas isn't honest about why he keeps changing things. Dishonesty will always rub people the wrong way.
2. Lucas is doing everything in his power to make sure the original cuts of Star Wars never again become available to the public. That is just pure doucheness.
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Not true. Lucas has always stated from the beginning that the changes reflect his original vision. It's the personal attacks by "fans" that inspire him to defend himself.
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