Stout

Or, as the case at Blockbuster said, The Experiment. This stars the male lead from the German hit movie Run Lola Run, Moritz Bleibtreu, and he puts in an exceptional performance.

The plot is a controlled experiment, with half of the 'lab rats' becoming the guards and half the prisoners. The guards are given the prison rules, and they are not allowed to use violence to enforce them. 'The Experiment' gets out of hand and what results is truly a horrific vision of what human nature can evolve into under the wrong circumstances. Daring, innovative, in-your-face and stunning. Chaplain, I believe you'll like this one.

If you don't like movies in German with English subtitles, then you won't like this movie. Still, you should check it out, because it is well worth the extra effort.

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Chaplin

I've seen the trailer a few times, and it looks very intriguing... I was unaware it was even on video yet--I'll have to check it out!

Cardinals.Ken

Sounds like it's based upon the real-life experiment that Dr. Phillip Zimbardo conducted at San Francisco University back in '69 or '70.

It was supposed to last 2 weeks...they had to call it off after a few days.

It changed the Experimental Code of Ethics of Psychology Departments around the country. But it didn't bring about any sort of change in the actual prison system!

Very disturbing to see how "normal" people can fall right into their designated role in such a situation.

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Stout

Very disturbing indeed...I was waiting for one of them to give the sig heil (spelling?)! It was a 14 day experiment, and no, it was not called off, so use your imagination!

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Cardinals.Ken

In the movie or real-life?

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Krangthebrain

Ah the "Zimbardo (is that the correct spelling?) Prison study"


I watched a video on that in one of my psych classes, and also in my JUS 301 Research in Justice Studies class. It was crazy how, normally docile people could become such vicious guards.

And Zimbardo as the "Warden"....wow, he even got too into the study. That study couldn't be done today.

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Stout

My bad, should have clarified that a bit...in the movie. I never knew they had at least somewhat of a parallel in real life, though it stands to reason.

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Cardinals.Ken

Here's the link to Zimbaro's website discussing it...it is a good read when you have the time!

http://www.prisonexp.org/

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Krangthebrain

Zimbardo is one of the weirdest guys I've ever seen. He doesn't look like he has changed a bit from the late 60s.

He has a dirty pervert kind of aura, the kind of guy that is an older man that sleeps with 18 year old girls.

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“Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimum food or water, in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon. He doesn’t worry about what workout to do—his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him. The True Believer doesn’t care ‘how hard it is’; he knows he either wins or he dies. He doesn’t go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the ‘Cause.’ Now, who wants to quit?”

NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates

On life after football: "I wouldn't mind being a sports commentator. Having my own segment, working for ESPN, my own talk show. Part time trainer. Part time car mechanic. Part time Sprint cell phone salesman. Part time car washman. Grocery store baggage man. Football coach. Model. Actress. Stripper. And I even have dreams of being the next crocodile hunter." - Darnell Dockett

Cardinals.Ken

My Pysch class featured his video series that was on PBS. I always thought he came across as "Mandrake The Magician".

I kept waiting for him to pull a rabbit out of a hat, or saw a woman in half...

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Krangthebrain

Yep, I've watched the very same film series (very well done, imo).

He does have the look of a magician, now that I think of it. Maybe that's why he looks 20 years younger than he really is.

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“Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimum food or water, in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon. He doesn’t worry about what workout to do—his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him. The True Believer doesn’t care ‘how hard it is’; he knows he either wins or he dies. He doesn’t go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the ‘Cause.’ Now, who wants to quit?”

NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates

On life after football: "I wouldn't mind being a sports commentator. Having my own segment, working for ESPN, my own talk show. Part time trainer. Part time car mechanic. Part time Sprint cell phone salesman. Part time car washman. Grocery store baggage man. Football coach. Model. Actress. Stripper. And I even have dreams of being the next crocodile hunter." - Darnell Dockett

Cardinals.Ken

Perhaps he is from the same planet as Dick Clark?

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FischerKing

You meant buy it don't you Chap?

Shawn

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Bada0Bing

I agree it's very disturbing. It's amazing how much influence a strong leader can have on a small group, both good and bad.

This was an extremely interesting movie, in a disgusting creepy sort of way.

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